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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetron View Post
    The majority of the DOJ investigations are the result of political pressure in order to attempt to calm down the citizenry enough to stop them from rioting. If there were really serious issues found then those officers would be fired. What you hear about in the news is simply a measure to make people calm down. The DOJ would shut down a station if such rampant abuses were actually true.

    The DOJ has found a number of Depts with massive violations.
    It is not all politics.
    You cannot shut down a Police Dept. unless it is a 2 officer town.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The DOJ has found a number of Depts with massive violations.
    It is not all politics.
    You cannot shut down a Police Dept. unless it is a 2 officer town.
    You can shut down a Police Department, or at least the DOJ has that authority. Its probably never a good idea to do so though because the public outrage is the problem facing the DOJ not the actions of the police force. The majority of the recent riots over police "brutality" have turned out to be perfectly legal and appropriate reactions to the situation. The DOJ "investigates" the police force in question to restore civil order and placate those who are rioting.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetron View Post
    If there were really serious issues found then those officers would be fired.
    Oh you mean like that one officer in S.C. who shot at a man 8 times in the back and got cleared by their internal review. Then that unfortunate youtube video popped up...

    It's one of a multitude of "internal investigations" that clear cops and then when some video gets shown in public, often the same videos that the internal affairs had access to, charges to the citizens get dropped and charges to the cops are made.?

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Oh you mean like that one officer in S.C. who shot at a man 8 times in the back and got cleared by their internal review. Then that unfortunate youtube video popped up...

    It's one of a multitude of "internal investigations" that clear cops and then when some video gets shown in public, often the same videos that the internal affairs had access to, charges to the citizens get dropped and charges to the cops are made.?
    That's how "serious issues" tend to be found: Someone makes a video and shares it.

    It seems to me that there is likely fewer unnecessary officer shootings now than there were before the invention of the digital video camera.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I'm sorry, where is the statistic that police have killed 60 million people?
    Yeah, see I've already admitted that error on my part. However, one unnecessary death at the hands of the government is one too many.


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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You mean 20% of those who happened to be killed (Not of the total population...*doh*) who were not armed. As far as I know, the OP doesn't state what those 20% were doing at the time of their deaths, and what was or was not considered a "lethal object". For example.... If I am bat**** crazy and trying to drive you down in my pickup... one would say that the vehicle is not a lethal object.... but did the OP's article consider that?

    I, for one, am willing to believe that there is a portion of that 20% who were otherwise a lethal threat to Officers. I am also willing to concede that there may be a portion of that 20% whose death at the hands of Officers is questionable.

    And who the **** said anything about Democratic voters? Quit being a partisan tool.

    I am okay with law enforcement killing hundreds of people who were armed with lethal weapons intent on doing law enforcement harm... yes.. I am completely okay with it.

    I would rather 200 violent offenders be killed than 1 officer's life risked.
    So don't people have Second Amendment rights? Nobody on your side wants to answer that.

    As far as the "Democratic voters" if these were white bread Republicans, you'd be upset. I think that's why the right isn't bothered by this.


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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So don't people have Second Amendment rights? Nobody on your side wants to answer that.

    As far as the "Democratic voters" if these were white bread Republicans, you'd be upset. I think that's why the right isn't bothered by this.
    People most assuredly have second amendment rights but if you aim your legal firearm at the police officer he will legally shoot you. As for why the right isnt bothered by this it is because of the same division in thinking that always separates the right from the left. The right accepts that there are tradeoffs for any action. If you want law and order you have to accept that there will be occasional mistakes and abuses. The left does not believe in tradeoffs and instead thinks that you can have law and order and it can be perfect everywhere every time, and if its not then it needs to be fixed because someone is deliberately making it that way.

    The right makes laws and decisions based on how the world works, the left makes laws and decisions based on how they wished the world worked.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So don't people have Second Amendment rights? Nobody on your side wants to answer that.

    As far as the "Democratic voters" if these were white bread Republicans, you'd be upset. I think that's why the right isn't bothered by this.
    Who said people don't have 2nd amendment rights?

    Your 2nd amendment does not give you the right to commit to armed resistance against law enforcement.

    And just what are you saying about all this "white bread republicans" bull****? Are you playing the race card? ****ing pathetic. GTFO with that childish bull**** and come back when you can debate without accusing someone of something just so you can make up a false position to attack.

    Please, since I didn't read it anywhere in the OP. What race AND political affiliation were the entire 380+ people who were killed by law enforcement this year? Go ahead... provide these facts.... but only if you are done making up false positions and attributing them to others on the forum.

    Until then, nobody wants to read you post in this thread again.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Do you have any actual way to prove that the majority of the people killed in their communities, I.e. Our combat zone, was actually an enemy combatant?

    I think it means a whole lot when a criminalized government steals money illegally from my paycheck to kill innocent people halfway across the world just to stimulate a government propped up military defense sector, but then again I am a libertarian...
    As am I, and Im not defending wars in foreign countries. Im simply pointing out that the two stats are not comparable.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Who said people don't have 2nd amendment rights?

    Your 2nd amendment does not give you the right to commit to armed resistance against law enforcement.

    And just what are you saying about all this "white bread republicans" bull****? Are you playing the race card? ****ing pathetic. GTFO with that childish bull**** and come back when you can debate without accusing someone of something just so you can make up a false position to attack.

    Please, since I didn't read it anywhere in the OP. What race AND political affiliation were the entire 380+ people who were killed by law enforcement this year? Go ahead... provide these facts.... but only if you are done making up false positions and attributing them to others on the forum.

    Until then, nobody wants to read you post in this thread again.
    So someone says the word white and you go right to race?

    Tell you what. The context is that apparently 80% of those killed by police are armed. Maybe you can explain how that automatically makes them a threat.

    Until then, nobody wants to hear from you either.


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