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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    When in doubt, let's blame the victims of the problem instead of the actual problem.
    The statistic is meaningless. Would you be "scared as hell" if 99% of those shootings were caused by a suspect trying to kill a police officer? Would you call them "victims"?
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You mean 20% of those who happened to be killed (Not of the total population...*doh*) who were not armed. As far as I know, the OP doesn't state what those 20% were doing at the time of their deaths, and what was or was not considered a "lethal object". For example.... If I am bat**** crazy and trying to drive you down in my pickup... one would say that the vehicle is not a lethal object.... but did the OP's article consider that?

    I, for one, am willing to believe that there is a portion of that 20% who were otherwise a lethal threat to Officers. I am also willing to concede that there may be a portion of that 20% whose death at the hands of Officers is questionable.

    And who the **** said anything about Democratic voters? Quit being a partisan tool.

    I am okay with law enforcement killing hundreds of people who were armed with lethal weapons intent on doing law enforcement harm... yes.. I am completely okay with it.

    I would rather 200 violent offenders be killed than 1 officer's life risked.
    The HuPo article DID cite several of the remaining 20%. Many of the unarmed were drug dealers that attacked the cops while resisting arrest. Mike Brown was one of the 20%. One of them was a woman that resisted arrested and tried to escape and ran over a cops foot in the process.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by MathewSmith View Post
    I'm scared as hell. How did it get this bad? When have they turned into bad characters? And why?! Do the police ever evaluate whether any of those killings are avoidable? or preventable? And what can we do to change the situation? Because the situation is really horrible!
    Over 300 of these people were armed and as of today 0bama is encouraging Black people to kill cops so the number is a little low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Resist arrest or the like, as in maybe making a sarcastic joke or ignoring an unlawful request, that tends to be the grounds for a police execution as well...

    We have a right to life if we shut up and obey
    So you like the situation in Baltimore? That is what we get when the cops stand down and let people kill each other for making a sarcastic joke or just because. Force the cops to step back and innocent people are victimized in much greater numbers than the number of criminal punks that have been killed by cops.

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    When in doubt, let's blame the victims of the problem instead of the actual problem.
    The victims of the 300+ people that were armed when the cops killed them are the public at large. Do you want to let people who would confront cops with weapons remain on the streets and confront your family with those weapons??

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    If you make a projection for 10 years then the police will kill more people than the number of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. 4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq and 2,345 U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan.
    That tells you something about the hand ringing about the number of troops being killed when it was less than the number of people who are killed from falls during the same period.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Since you are all about the odds, the odds of being killed by a cop are still much, much greater than being killed by a terrorist.

    So, if you are saying we are over-stating the problem of cops killing citizens are you not also saying, by extension of logic, that we are WAY overstating the problems with terrorism?
    Do you realize that a significant factor in your comparison is the number of terrorists you've crossed paths with versus the number of terrorists you've come across?
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by MathewSmith View Post
    WASHINGTON, May 30 (Reuters) - U.S. police have shot and killed 385 people during the first five months of this year, a rate of more than two a day, the Washington Post reported on Saturday.
    Awesome. I'll bet the recidivism rate for people who are shot dead is low as crap.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ...and your objective support/data for this statement is?????
    Workplace violence, specifically homicides on average for at least 2004-2008.

    Workplace shootings Fact Sheet

    And while terrorism risk is small in America at this time, at least for civilians, that doesn't mean that the potential isn't higher for this to happen, than to get shot by a cop for no reason. Based on the stats given, at most 77 were unarmed (they said "more than 80% armed though, so it is almost certainly less than that). Now, unarmed does not mean that the person was not a potential threat nor that they weren't resisting arrest, potentially trying to become armed. There is a reason that I put "without provocation" there.

    At least 17 US American citizen civilians were killed by terrorist action last year. And unlike unwarranted police killings, which are normally the result of either overzealousness or out of control officers, terrorists are trying to kill Americans, and being thwarted. Police are not trying to kill us (at least the vast majority, and definitely not more likely than an average citizen).

    Would you like a better example, such as gang violence, where the numbers are much higher. How many people are killed in mass shootings or random gun violence each year? I guarantee it is more than even 77 (which again, is the absolute most which were possibly shot without any provocation, and that is really stretching).
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And what about the other 20%? Don't you think that the government killing 20% of the citizenry is a problem?

    I find it nothing but amusing that the same people who claim to have been afraid of "Obama's death panels" are totally ok with the police killing hundreds of people. Is it ok as long as they're potentially Democratic voters?
    I'm sorry, where is the statistic that police have killed 60 million people?
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Resist arrest or the like, as in maybe making a sarcastic joke or ignoring an unlawful request, that tends to be the grounds for a police execution as well...

    We have a right to life if we shut up and obey
    1) what people have to understand is that on the street, you have to comply even if its an illegal action.

    2) get a lawyer and take it to court. many judges who are elected are less and less tolerant of cops screwing up. SO are many jurors.

    3) that being said, cops are in a tough position. someone walks up what looks to be a pistol in a dark street or up to a cop car-they don't have much time to evaluate a situation. and if they screw up they die or they get publicly crucified
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Neocon response....
    Maybe don't use words you don't understand so that your arguments appear less stupid?
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Really? You've gone through each case individually and come to this conclusion?
    Have you?
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