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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by MathewSmith View Post
    WASHINGTON, May 30 (Reuters) - U.S. police have shot and killed 385 people during the first five months of this year, a rate of more than two a day, the Washington Post reported on Saturday.
    The victims ranged in age from 16 to 83. More than 80 percent were armed with potentially lethal objects, mostly guns. Ninety-two victims were identified as mentally ill.
    The Post's analysis also indicates the daily death toll for 2015 is close to 2.6 as of Friday. At that pace, police will have shot and killed nearly 1,000 people by the end of the year, the paper said.

    U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months: REPORT

    I'm scared as hell. How did it get this bad? When have they turned into bad characters? And why?! Do the police ever evaluate whether any of those killings are avoidable? or preventable? And what can we do to change the situation? Because the situation is really horrible!
    Apparently you missed the part where 80% of the subjects were armed with lethal objects, mostly guns.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    If you make a projection for 10 years then the police will kill more people than the number of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. 4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq and 2,345 U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan.
    So.... they should just let the 80+% of those who they shot who were armed with a lethal object kill them or other innocent people instead?

    Did any of you actually read the freaking OP?

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    When in doubt, let's blame the victims of the problem instead of the actual problem.
    If you are assaulting cops you are not a victim and you are the problem.

    If you are assaulting cops I wonder what other crimes you have done to hurt innocent people. **** criminals. Cop lives matter, criminal lives dont.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It's interesting to note that most posters who are defending police here are applying their own circumstances to the problem. Middle class white people are imagining a lone encounter with police going south, and saying that you just go along with the arrest and argue in court. Instead, most of these victims are poor black kids who are harassed constantly by police and aren't often arrested. They're being subject to extrajudicial punishment from police and have no recourse in the courts to fight it, especially since they can't afford lawyers. Does anyone really think that an overworked public defender is going to explore constitutional issues of police conduct for them? Of course not. There's going to be a quick plea deal. NONE of the recourses and suggestions offered by comfortable middle class white people will help poor blacks escape constant harassment and abuse from police. And no one should have to simply obey in such a situation.
    Dang, you just made up a whole bunch of unsupported claims in this post while criticizing others for viewing the scenario without bias.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Interesting that 92% were 'mentally ill'. Perhaps we can trace this back to the patient rights (PC) movement advocates that put many of the mentally ill out on the streets several decades ago?
    Not 92%... just the number 92....

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    None.
    Really? You've gone through each case individually and come to this conclusion?

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You have no authority to kill someone who resists a citizens arrest, even if you think they are a threat.

    And NC does not allow citizens arrests. Shoplifters cannot be detained by store owners/workers here, not even security people.
    That isn't true actually.

    I responded to many shoplifters detained by Asset Protection employees at Wal-Mart, Harris Teeter, Lowe's Foods, etc (especially during my short tenure on 2nd shift). It is perfectly legal to detain someone.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And what about the other 20%? Don't you think that the government killing 20% of the citizenry is a problem?

    I find it nothing but amusing that the same people who claim to have been afraid of "Obama's death panels" are totally ok with the police killing hundreds of people. Is it ok as long as they're potentially Democratic voters?
    You mean 20% of those who happened to be killed (Not of the total population...*doh*) who were not armed. As far as I know, the OP doesn't state what those 20% were doing at the time of their deaths, and what was or was not considered a "lethal object". For example.... If I am bat**** crazy and trying to drive you down in my pickup... one would say that the vehicle is not a lethal object.... but did the OP's article consider that?

    I, for one, am willing to believe that there is a portion of that 20% who were otherwise a lethal threat to Officers. I am also willing to concede that there may be a portion of that 20% whose death at the hands of Officers is questionable.

    And who the **** said anything about Democratic voters? Quit being a partisan tool.

    I am okay with law enforcement killing hundreds of people who were armed with lethal weapons intent on doing law enforcement harm... yes.. I am completely okay with it.

    I would rather 200 violent offenders be killed than 1 officer's life risked.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    None. They're the result of gangs that have a long history of abuse and harassment.
    And a long history of being prosecuted and going to jail.

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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    That isn't true actually.

    I responded to many shoplifters detained by Asset Protection employees at Wal-Mart, Harris Teeter, Lowe's Foods, etc (especially during my short tenure on 2nd shift). It is perfectly legal to detain someone.
    If they agree to be detained. You cannot force them to stay. An asset protection employee has power only because many don't realize that they cannot be forced to stay there if they don't want to. They can walk out and there absolutely no level of violence (beyond that needed to disengage) the Loss prevention person can do about it. While they can't get in trouble for keeping them, they don't have power of force to back up their authoritative commands for the person to stay. Most stores, including WalMart, have policies that specify that if a suspected shoplifter becomes in any way violent, the protection specialists and all other employees are supposed to disengage and contact law enforcement.

    Hell, Loss Prevention has killed people at WalMarts for suspected shoplifting.

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