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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    What gives the police officer that ability when they've shown time and time again how capable they are at ignoring the training and how abusive of authority they have... Basically you did not answer my question.

    How is it more effective then as citizen who has no incentive to abuse authority since the citizen has no inherently larger amount of authority then anyone else.
    Civilians have just as much or more incentive to abuse power, everyone is human. We all have potential to treat others like crap for some gain or just because.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    All of them!

    Oh, unless you're somehow poor or something. Then the police are fully justified in killing you.
    The police didn't kill any of the 38 people in Baltimore who've been murder in the last month since the Freddie Gray incident. Criminals don't need justification for the murders they commit. How about the young mother and her child who were murdered in their home in the Freddie Gray neighbourhood? Guess the black marchers aren't too concerned about those two young black lives. Those two deaths aren't going to get any self important Mayor or Prosecutor camera time with the national media. Baltimore Mayor must be in hiding lately - wonder if she still has her police protection.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    20% of the citizenry would be about 60 million people. I think you must mean 20% of the people who were shot were not carrying weapons.

    When you stop to think just how quickly a cop has to react when it looks like a suspect is going for a weapon, that's really not so bad, is it?
    You're right. But I still think that one citizen needlessly dying at the hands of the government is too many.


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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You're right. But I still think that one citizen needlessly dying at the hands of the government is too many.
    I agree.
    On the other hand, one cop shot by a gang banger because the cop hesitated is too many as well.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The police didn't kill any of the 38 people in Baltimore who've been murder in the last month since the Freddie Gray incident. Criminals don't need justification for the murders they commit. How about the young mother and her child who were murdered in their home in the Freddie Gray neighbourhood? Guess the black marchers aren't too concerned about those two young black lives. Those two deaths aren't going to get any self important Mayor or Prosecutor camera time with the national media. Baltimore Mayor must be in hiding lately - wonder if she still has her police protection.
    But if all of them were armed they wouldn't die. At least that's what we keep hearing.

    I think citizens lives matter. Regardless of their race.


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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Since you are all about the odds, the odds of being killed by a cop are still much, much greater than being killed by a terrorist.

    So, if you are saying we are over-stating the problem of cops killing citizens are you not also saying, by extension of logic, that we are WAY overstating the problems with terrorism?
    The odds of being killed without provocation by a cop are much lower than be killed by some terrorist action, even lower than the odds of being killed by a disgruntled coworker or in some random shooting incident. Very few police killings, even shootings are innocent civilians and an overzealous cop, compared to the total number.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It is no rule, and the first example would mean that shooting children with toy guns is acceptable.

    I would say nearly every boy from the age of 6 to 14 has played with toy guns, and has pointed them at someone. According to you, the police are justified in shooting every boy that has done so.

    Like everyone one, the police have to be held accountable for their actions, and if they kill someone without justification, they should be held to the same laws that others are held to. The three examples I posted are all not justifiable, and the police involved should be punished for at least manslaughter or attempted manslaughter
    Actually, most children are taught to not point a weapon at someone if the parents have any knowledge whatsoever of gun safety, and the more real the gun looks, the more this should be stressed.

    Would it have been different if it had been a civilian who shot the kid for pointing what he or she believed to be a real gun at them?
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    But if all of them were armed they wouldn't die. At least that's what we keep hearing.

    I think citizens lives matter. Regardless of their race.
    You don't hear me saying that, but if I lived in such a neighbourhood, I wouldn't be outside too much and I'd be prepared to defend myself by whatever means necessary.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    You are mistaken. Here's the decision for you to read if you like. The salient point is here:
    That's exactly what I said, non dangerous fleeing criminal.

    So I was right.
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    Re: U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Don't these people have a Second Amendment right to be armed? Shouldn't someone be standing up for their rights? Where's the NRA?
    That's just stupid.

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