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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    We figured out somewhere around 1938 that isolation wasn't an option.
    Btw, there's plenty of options between isolationism and global police, but in your attempt to legitimize US imperialism, I wouldn't expect you to look for that.
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Btw, there's plenty of options between isolationism and global police, but in your attempt to legitimize US imperialism, I wouldn't expect you to look for that.
    Well, I would look for it if were relevant to the thread. China's territorial claims against virtually every country in Asia have nothing to do with U.S. imperialism, unless your argument is because the U.S. took the Philippines and some sand in the Marianas from Spain, China can be a bully, too?
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Btw, there's plenty of options between isolationism and global police, but in your attempt to legitimize US imperialism, I wouldn't expect you to look for that.
    So what would you suggest we do, if anything, when it comes to China using land reclamation to assert its claim to the Spratly Islands?
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    So what would you suggest we do, if anything, when it comes to China using land reclamation to assert its claim to the Spratly Islands?
    What is it you want to do about vietnams reclamation projects in the Spratly's , and their placement of artillery to assert IT'S claims to the Spratly islands.
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Well, I would look for it if were relevant to the thread. China's territorial claims against virtually every country in Asia have nothing to do with U.S. imperialism, unless your argument is because the U.S. took the Philippines and some sand in the Marianas from Spain, China can be a bully, too?
    I'm sure all nations, given sufficient power are capable of bullying. Including the US, there is no example of a global or even strong regional power not bullying its weight.
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

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    Yes, with US ally.



    Alone against China?
    With US and the allies in the backdrop it would be a good start.
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What is it you want to do about vietnams reclamation projects in the Spratly's , and their placement of artillery to assert IT'S claims to the Spratly islands.
    Can you provide a source for Vietnam's placement of artillery? As far as what I'd do about it, probably not much, other than tell all parties that this isn't constructive. But from what I understand Vietnam's efforts pale in comparison to China's.
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Can you provide a source for Vietnam's placement of artillery? As far as what I'd do about it, probably not much, other than tell all parties that this isn't constructive. But from what I understand Vietnam's efforts pale in comparison to China's.
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If it's wrong for one, it's wrong for both!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Maybe. Frankly, I don't know enough about the history of the islands and international law to make an intelligent comment on whose claims are valid and whose aren't. What I will say is it would probably be more constructive if all parties would cease the reclamation efforts and sit down and talk about it, but I'm guessing that won't happen. More likely the guy with the bigger navy will exert control over them. But the principle that we need to enforce is free navigation of the South China Sea. No country should be permitted to unilaterally declare exclusion zones where none previously existed.
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    Re: China threatens nuclear war with U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Maybe. Frankly, I don't know enough about the history of the islands and international law to make an intelligent comment on whose claims are valid and whose aren't. What I will say is it would probably be more constructive if all parties would cease the reclamation efforts and sit down and talk about it, but I'm guessing that won't happen. More likely the guy with the bigger navy will exert control over them. But the principle that we need to enforce is free navigation of the South China Sea. No country should be permitted to unilaterally declare exclusion zones where none previously existed.
    Well that may be true, though a whole other subject than China's solid claims to the Spratly's.
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