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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Link? I work in education and have never heard this claim before.
    I'm speaking from personal experience. Since I also note that most such "scandals" are never reported or come to light, what kind of link would you like me to produce?
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    risky, he was vetted by a majority of the voting public
    again proving we deserve the politicians we elect

    i would wish the fourth estate was more interested in ferreting out unethical behaviors
    I can't blame the media too much in this regard since much of sexual deviance is hidden with great competence by the perpetrators and often, through shame, by the victims as well. It's not uncommon for a situation like Hastert's to come to light decades after the fact. It's why most child molestation and sexual abuse laws have no statute of limitations.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm speaking from personal experience. Since I also note that most such "scandals" are never reported or come to light, what kind of link would you like me to produce?
    It's just a pretty interesting claim considering that an estimated 10% of the average population has homosexual tendencies. Statistically, it just seems highly unlikely the "vast majority" of teacher sex scandals would be of a homosexual nature.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    It's just a pretty interesting claim considering that an estimated 10% of the average population has homosexual tendencies. Statistically, it just seems highly unlikely the "vast majority" of teacher sex scandals would be of a homosexual nature.
    Perhaps because those involving opposite sex relationships don't leave the victims as traumatized. You're not exactly going to hear a lot about teenage boys being abused by their 20 something female teacher - they seldom come to light, even at the board level - to a lesser extent, male teacher female student. Usually what gets reported, often by other teachers, are the same sex relationships.

    We were talking about "preying" on students, right?
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Perhaps because those involving opposite sex relationships don't leave the victims as traumatized.
    Another unsubstantiated claim, my friend?

    You're not exactly going to hear a lot about teenage boys being abused by their 20 something female teacher - they seldom come to light, even at the board level
    I do believe the stigma of pre-marital hetereosexual sex is far less of a burden on males than it is on females. But it is still sexual abuse and exploitation even if the teacher is a 21-year old female. And by admitting that we don't hear about those cases as much, you are kind of proving my point.

    - to a lesser extent, male teacher female student.
    So a male teacher/female student relationship has less of a mental impact than a femal teacher/female student relationship? Without the stats to back it up, I find it really hard to believe.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post

    But yeah, Clinton's sexual exploits were not a proud moment for him - and painful moments for his family. But as long as he wasn't screwing a kid or giving away government secrets - it was none of my concern. My concern was how this country faired under his Presidency. Pretty damned well. And frankly, he likely could be elected again if rules allowed.

    He sort of could, you know. With Hillary, you get a 2 for 1 deal.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Another unsubstantiated claim, my friend?



    I do believe the stigma of pre-marital hetereosexual sex is far less of a burden on males than it is on females. But it is still sexual abuse and exploitation even if the teacher is a 21-year old female. And by admitting that we don't hear about those cases as much, you are kind of proving my point.



    So a male teacher/female student relationship has less of a mental impact than a femal teacher/female student relationship? Without the stats to back it up, I find it really hard to believe.
    We're apparently talking about two different things. I understood you were referring to "preying" - clearly you're not. That's fine, carry on.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    That's fair - I don't like anyone preaching to me about anything to do with the personal lives of individuals. But speaking of how you choose to live and what you believe in personally is fine, and strangely expected in American politics. Here in Canada, we don't give a rats ass what religion or personal life choices a politician makes but seems in America, a politicians personal life is dissected completely and held up for criticism. Here, the spouse of the Prime Minister is virtually invisible, unlike your First Lady. You seem to want to elect a "family", not hire someone for a job. When you do that, people tend to promote their family as a model and then they get in trouble.
    A few years ago, I was at my local grocery store waiting to pay for my stuff through the cash. I usually take this time to laugh at the displayed tabloid headlines, but couldn't help take notice of the cashier talking to the lady in front of me in French. The cashier asked "Avez-vous passe des bonnes vacances, Aline ?" As soon as I heard the name, I looked over and there was Aline Chretien, doing some groceries on a Saturday afternoon. Imagine Laura Bush or Michelle Obama doing that???
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    We're apparently talking about two different things. I understood you were referring to "preying" - clearly you're not. That's fine, carry on.
    Hm?

    Teachers who exploit their students, no matter their gender or sexual orientation, are "preying." I just doubt the claim there are more homosexual incidents than there are heterosexual ones.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    An oldie that is never not current:

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    Maybe conservatives shouldn't set the bar that high. After all, they're human... no?

    My favourite is thinking that abstinence education is a perfectly viable way to curb unwanted pregnancies and the spread of disease. History has taught us otherwise. Yet the moralistic drumming from the Conservtive side still beats.
    Putin has certainly grabbed Trump by the pussy. Payback is a bitch.

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