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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Was there ever any doubt? Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, pays $3.5M to somebody they didn't ass rape.


    Everyone is entitled to their day in court, but what I've read so far doesn't look good for Hastert.

    It looks like the feds have a good case. No one wants to lie to the FBI (That will get you locked up.).

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Really? Even an allegation can end someone's career. Just ask Washingon senator Brock Adams about that, the allegations were never proven against Adams and he denies them, but he abandoned a reelection bid over them.

    Hastert could've paid him off just to avoid allegations.... There is no proof of actual sex abuse here, none will be prosecuted either
    Moving those amounts of money around was not on the up and up or we'd all know it by now. I do hate to these things happen, but it looks like Haster in the net just like Tom Delay was.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Everyone is entitled to their day in court, but what I've read so far doesn't look good for Hastert.

    It looks like the feds have a good case. No one wants to lie to the FBI (That will get you locked up.).
    Well said. That's why in the OP my only comment was, "this'll be interesting". When it starts to shake out we're going to learn more.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    People can believe the right things and yet still be hypocrites in the personal actions they take. And don't forget, weakness of character is not limit to those who believe in the value of family and a moral lifestyle.

    I always find it funny when people throw up the "wonderful family values politician" line. It's as if the actions of the individual would have been acceptable if only they didn't believe in the strength of families. Perhaps that's why so many modern day liberals love to ridicule wayward conservatives and yet still hold up President Clinton as a model and cherish his Presidency. I suppose if you have no morals you can be easily excused for acting immorally.
    It is interesting, though, that when a Republican is involved in a sex scandal it usually involved another male. And often that male is underage.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This conservatives hopes for the best in people.
    A very uncommon characteristic in the typical conservative.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    An oldie that is never not current:

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    Right, because the bar is set so incredibly high when it comes to sexual abuse of a student.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Moving those amounts of money around was not on the up and up or we'd all know it by now. I do hate to these things happen, but it looks like Haster in the net just like Tom Delay was.
    Well of course the money is the issue, he was structuring to avoid reporting requirements and then lied to the FBI about it, no doubt about the money.

    I just am not willing to jump on the bandwagon and call him a perv yet, sex abuse allegations are by nature difficult to disprove and they can be the kiss of death to a political career. It is very plausible to pay someone hush money even of they're not guilty. Remember Cosby payed significant amounts of money to a young woman who claimed he had fathered her, until she got too greedy and he demanded a paternity test, she disappeared quickly
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Everyone is entitled to their day in court, but what I've read so far doesn't look good for Hastert.

    It looks like the feds have a good case. No one wants to lie to the FBI (That will get you locked up.).
    Henry Cisneros ( Clinton's housing secretary) lied to the FBI about money he paid to a former mistress..... he got a 10,000 fine.

    the bulk of Hasterts punishment will come from withdrawing his own money without telling the govt...... "the war on cash" is getting his ass in a sling.

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    That's why there are so many conservatives that support all this family value legislation, and get caught with their pants down. That's because they don't expect anybody to live up to expectations that they don't follow themselves. Right.
    Did I say that? Did I claim to be a spokesperson for all conservatives? I provided my own opinion - do you have one?
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    It is interesting, though, that when a Republican is involved in a sex scandal it usually involved another male. And often that male is underage.
    A psychologist or psychiatrist could speak to this more, but I think it's likely that those who are ashamed of being gay or bisexual and attracted to teenage males, which is different from being a pedophile, likely aspire to or try to hide behind those who oppose gay and bisexual activity. It's no different from gay or bisexual priests, as an example. As a result, when they are found out, they appear hypocritical. When you try to hide in a forest, you look for trees to hide behind. And when you're attracted to young men, you sometimes become a teacher or other childcare professional. You may think there are a lot of Republicans involved in such activity, but the vast majority of teachers are Democrats and there are far more teachers caught in such actions than politicians.
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