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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    I think it's ironic that what caused him to be caught was the fact he withdrew money from 15 different banks in 10,000 dollar increments to pay the hush money, and because of the Patriotic Act, the banks could communicate with each other, and the large amount of cash withdrawn was a tip off. Some of those withdraws were labels as 'suspicious', which triggered an investigation.
    Ya can't make stupid people smart. I wonder if his legislation will stick?.... Who knows what he's been up to.

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    People can believe the right things and yet still be hypocrites in the personal actions they take. And don't forget, weakness of character is not limit to those who believe in the value of family and a moral lifestyle.

    I always find it funny when people throw up the "wonderful family values politician" line. It's as if the actions of the individual would have been acceptable if only they didn't believe in the strength of families. Perhaps that's why so many modern day liberals love to ridicule wayward conservatives and yet still hold up President Clinton as a model and cherish his Presidency. I suppose if you have no morals you can be easily excused for acting immorally.
    Sounds like a rationalization to me. Hastert apparently not only molested a student but tried to hush it up with bribe money. You want to compare that to Clinton go right ahead. And a major difference is conservatives expect others to live by their moral standards even if they are unable to comply themselves. Its also a shame that conservatives have this major stigma about homosexuality. Seems to cause quite a bit of internal conflicts. A shame really. I anxiously await the next holier than thou con to fall off the wagon.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I like the line myself because it shows the hypocrisy in a lot of these people and really makes you wonder what goes through their minds with BS Family Values legislation and rhetoric. Maybe we can lucky through this and that whole meme will disappear.
    Why would you want it to disappear? Perhaps you prefer unfettered decadence.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    People can believe the right things and yet still be hypocrites in the personal actions they take. And don't forget, weakness of character is not limit to those who believe in the value of family and a moral lifestyle.

    I always find it funny when people throw up the "wonderful family values politician" line. It's as if the actions of the individual would have been acceptable if only they didn't believe in the strength of families. Perhaps that's why so many modern day liberals love to ridicule wayward conservatives and yet still hold up President Clinton as a model and cherish his Presidency. I suppose if you have no morals you can be easily excused for acting immorally.
    blah blah blah
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    Sounds like a rationalization to me. Hastert apparently not only molested a student but tried to hush it up with bribe money. You want to compare that to Clinton go right ahead. And a major difference is conservatives expect others to live by their moral standards even if they are unable to comply themselves. Its also a shame that conservatives have this major stigma about homosexuality. Seems to cause quite a bit of internal conflicts. A shame really. I anxiously await the next holier than thou con to fall off the wagon.
    This conservative doesn't expect anyone to live their lives by any standard they don't support themselves. This conservative believes in personal responsibility and taking ownership for your mistakes and weaknesses. This conservative doesn't throw out an entire group of people because of one person's failings. And this conservative doesn't have a major stigma about homosexuality.

    It's a shame that you revel in the failings of people and can't wait for more. This conservatives hopes for the best in people.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    blah blah blah
    You're now two for two on this thread.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This conservative doesn't expect anyone to live their lives by any standard they don't support themselves. This conservative believes in personal responsibility and taking ownership for your mistakes and weaknesses. This conservative doesn't throw out an entire group of people because of one person's failings. And this conservative doesn't have a major stigma about homosexuality.

    It's a shame that you revel in the failings of people and can't wait for more. This conservatives hopes for the best in people.
    Depends what you mean by an entire group of people. I voted for Republican Ben Gilman when I was younger and would vote for him today. He was moderate and didn't push the social conservatism so prevalent in today's Republican Party. His district was redrawn and he was eliminated. Too bad there aren't more conservatives like you that live in the US. Guilty as charged, I enjoy seeing hypocrites get theirs. The same reason I enjoy seeing BMW drivers pulled over by the police.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    Depends what you mean by an entire group of people. I voted for Republican Ben Gilman when I was younger and would vote for him today. He was moderate and didn't push the social conservatism so prevalent in today's Republican Party. His district was redrawn and he was eliminated. Too bad there aren't more conservatives like you that live in the US. Guilty as charged, I enjoy seeing hypocrites get theirs. The same reason I enjoy seeing BMW drivers pulled over by the police.
    What you identify is an entirely American phenomenon, in my view. Many Americans love to build people up and then can't wait to tear them down. Some can't decide if they want heroes and role models or they want everyone to be flawed just as they are. Much of it's media driven, but it is uniquely American in its fanaticism.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You're now two for two on this thread.
    And you have a perfect record for stupid posts. Congrats.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    And you have a perfect record for stupid posts. Congrats.
    Why thank you. I hope you have a terrific weekend.
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