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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen.Seven View Post
    So, we have to prove we're not breaking laws when we spend our money? How is that not prior restraint?
    How would you combat money laundering and enforce the tax laws?
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    How would you combat money laundering and enforce the tax laws?
    Certainly not by presuming guilt and requiring the accussed to prove they are not breaking any laws.

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen.Seven View Post
    Certainly not by presuming guilt and requiring the accussed to prove they are not breaking any laws.
    That is not an answer, merely a deflection. We have money laundering laws, estate & gift tax laws. How would you enforce those laws among others like sending money to terrorists and other regimes under sanction? Hastert did nothing wrong by removing his own money from the banks, all he had to do was report it. He then compounded the situation by lying to the FBI.
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Isn't this provision of the Patriot Act that Hastert is being charged under what he supervised the passage of to begin with?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    That is not an answer, merely a deflection. We have money laundering laws, estate & gift tax laws. How would you enforce those laws among others like sending money to terrorists and other regimes under sanction? Hastert did nothing wrong by removing his own money from the banks, all he had to do was report it. He then compounded the situation by lying to the FBI.
    The reporting requirement is absurd, law or not. The way to enforce anti-terrorism or anti-mafia laws is to get warrants for bank records when they are warranted, just like the way to get evidence of misdoings via internet/telephony is to get specific warrants for specific cases rather than collect everything.

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Isn't this provision of the Patriot Act that Hastert is being charged under what he supervised the passage of to begin with?
    Yes, I believe that's in the article: hoisted by his own petard
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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    I think it's ironic that what caused him to be caught was the fact he withdrew money from 15 different banks in 10,000 dollar increments to pay the hush money, and because of the Patriotic Act, the banks could communicate with each other, and the large amount of cash withdrawn was a tip off. Some of those withdraws were labels as 'suspicious', which triggered an investigation.
    What is ironic is he signed the act himself that got him caught.

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Was there ever any doubt? Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, pays $3.5M to somebody they didn't ass rape.
    But why wait 40 years to blackmail the man?

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    $3.5 million dollars is insane. But being a lobbyist that is small change.

    If one is a creationist, why oh why did your God make the human orgasm more powerful that meth. Clinton succumb to it. Even Einstein is reportedly had a little romp with Marilyn Monroe.

    The only difference between Meth and Sexual Affairs is that with Sexual Affairs you usually don't lose your teeth.
    That depends on who you date, or who her husband is.

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    Re: Hastert Case Is Said to Be Linked to Decades-Old Sexual Abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I don't remember any Dems being child molesters...
    Look for the story of Bill Clinton going off to the island.

    It was implied.

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