Thread: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

Originally Posted by Tuatara

I think thrilla just proved to everyone on the board that if the US uses terrorism or sponsors terrorism, that it's OK because you always have to root for the home team no matter how they play the game.

When Mustafa’s definition of terrorism is taken alongside Gibbs’s (1989) characterisation of State terrorism as “when a government or official engages in terrorism at the direction of or with the consent of a superordinate”, or as Tilly (2004) has it “governmental intimidation of citizens”, it will be concluded that states can commit terrorism.

State terrorism: definition, geographic spaces and place destruction - Exploring Geopolitics

Originally Posted by Geoist

Bush. Was it too traumatic for you to remember?

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Oh, so Bush greeted him in the normal way for their country. Well, gee that is significant. At least he did not bow down before him.



You brought up the subject of presidents supporting murderous regimes (as if that is anything new).

Yes, so what is your point? Is there a rule that the left thinks exits, that says we must treat all countries the same, even though every single country is different?

Originally Posted by Thrilla

that's true as well... in addition to flat out stealing property.

doesn't make him a terrorists though... it simply makes him a socialist doing what socialists do.

To the bolded, hmm??? The US is built on stolen property. Do you really think that only socialists steal property, that America's history and origins is socialistic? Or is that different in your mind. Like when a group of men blow up civilians it's terrorism, but if a group of men blow up civilians with instructions or financing from a state it's something else, not sure what you'd call it, probably not even a crime, probably foreign policy.

Originally Posted by Anthony60

You mean like before we were forced by the government to buy healthcare? Or before there was an income tax? Or before the government wasted hundreds of millions of dollars on left wing pet projects? Gee, I'll have to think about that!

Tell you what - lose your house and go bankrupt because you couldn't pay for your medical care, because your insurance company dropped you because you either had a preexisting condition or the cost of your care had hit its lifetime cap...and then come back and tell us how 'free' you are now, since you and your family are now flat broke and you can't afford any health care at all. Read my signature quote below - it applies very well.

I just did.

Um, no. You've got partisanship politics confused with freedom. Right now, today, you and every other American have more rights than the American people as a whole have ever had.

You are absolutely cluless if you think the letter after his name matters to a true conservative. That's for democrats.

Y'know, Buckley and Goldwater were quite conservative...but the meaning of 'conservative' has changed greatly from what it once was. In fact, Obamacare itself was an invention by the VERY conservative Heritage Foundation, pushed by the GOP House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and first implemented by the 2012 GOP candidate for president. Obamacare is quite conservative in that we ALL need health care sooner or later - every single one of us (who doesn't die suddenly)...and all Obamacare is, is getting people to pay for what they WILL need so that the rest of us don't have to pay their way for them. I would say that most conservatives today really don't know the meaning of 'conservative' - otherwise, why would they have opposed taking away tax breaks from corporations outsourcing jobs overseas?

What you call "accomplishments" I call attacks on the Constitution and our liberties. I guess it all depends on where you stand. If you are for big, iron fisted government, then yes, Obama is getting a lot done.

You call them 'attacks' because that's what you've been told by the people you trust. Unfortunately, you're trusting the wrong people.

If you believe personal freedom and following the Constitutions, like the founders of this country did, then we are not doing so well.

Yeah, why don't we go back to those days of the founders, when only propertied white men could vote? Women and people of color need not apply! Go back to those days when if you couldn't pay for your health care, tough luck. If you couldn't pay for your child to learn how to read, tough luck.

In other words, guy, 'freedom' sounds really nice...until you start realizing that your personal idea of 'freedom' really sucks for those who ain't already rich.