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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    why would i have to "bear" your false assertion?...your lies carry no burden for me to bear.

    again, asking me to prove a negative is bad form.. I can't prove something doesn't exist....
    it is simple fact that State Terrorism is not legally recognized domestically or internationally by anyone.... period.

    this is a very easy concept to grasp...and you're not a dumb guy....you'll eventually understand.
    Isn't this whole thread about the US dropping Cuba (a state) off the terror blacklist.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuatara View Post
    Isn't this whole thread about the US dropping Cuba (a state) off the terror blacklist.
    no, it's about dropping them from the list of State Sponsors of Terrorism...

    State Sponsors of Terrorism

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Only in the minds of the feeble is there no such thing as "state terrorism", I provided links to the definition thereof. And, showed you that a sponsor is RESPONSIBLE for the person or group supported.
    nah.. only the feeble minded conflate being a sponsor of terrorism with being terrorists themselves.... it's a good thing that no nation or authoritative body on earth listens to the feeble minded.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    History, you missed it.
    Nope, but apparently you have, because the U.S. now trades with Germany despite once fighting a war with the Nazis. Answer the question: If Germany were 90 miles away from the United States, like Cuba, do you believe we should cease trading with them because of the history with the Nazis?
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    wow. the bloody dictators of Cuba will CRY the day Obama leaves office, as will most of the other dictatorships on the planet. they have been given "free lunches" for years now and know they have NOTHING to fear from the current administration. I feel sorry for their sleepless nights that will come when Obama shuffles back to being a community organizer. better enjoy the golden days while they last.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Nope, but apparently you have, because the U.S. now trades with Germany despite once fighting a war with the Nazis. Answer the question: If Germany were 90 miles away from the United States, like Cuba, do you believe we should cease trading with them because of the history with the Nazis?
    you are missing a key ingredient here....Germany had a total regime change and Cuba didn't.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Cuba's a hellhole anyways. Either way this is the beginning of the end for Cuba's Communist's. Once a capitalist class is established they'll collapse entirely seeing as the capitalist class will usurp them in power and influence (just as in China, Vietnam, Russia).

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    1.) No its exactly what I'm doing. You said the reasoning for Cuba on the list is because the are a "communist police state". So is China. Why isnt China? Why do we have diplomatic relations with them? If we are using the same reasoning for Cuba should it also not apply to another state that can be described as a "communist police state" as well?
    I also said every country is different, what applies to one may be totally different for another. You kind of missed that part. You can see that, can't you? That China and Cuba are different? If you really think about it, you may be able find a difference or two between those two nations that we may consider when dealing with them.


    Well no ****. Thanks for telling me the blatantly obvious.
    Um, it's seems that "the blatantly obvious" is not all that obvious to you, and needs to be spelled out.
    So essentially your reasoning and logic for not establishing relations with Cuba is, "BECAUSE I SAY SO!"
    Nope. Again, more misleading and twisting of my point. Completely wrong. I'm starting to think you are just not comprehending things that well. So be it.

    Listen, you are really getting your clock cleaned in this thread. You might want to reconsider your position at this point.
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I also said every country is different, what applies to one may be totally different for another. You kind of missed that part. You can see that, can't you? That China and Cuba are different? If you really think about it, you may be able find a difference or two between those two nations that we may consider when dealing with them.
    So what makes Cuba different? Pass conflicts? Why can we have open diplomatic relations with China, and even have them as one of our biggest trading partners? You gave past examples in relation to Cuba as "police state" being "communist". China is ran by a Communist Party. They have a massive police force. They also have been in direct combat with US troops in Korea...

    Um, it's seems that "the blatantly obvious" is not all that obvious to you, and needs to be spelled out.
    Why do you think this conversation is even happening?

    Nope. Again, more misleading and twisting of my point. Completely wrong. I'm starting to think you are just not comprehending things that well. So be it.

    Listen, you are really getting your clock cleaned in this thread. You might want to reconsider your position at this point.
    Well you just skipped over all the other points. So im guessing you are beginning to rely on the statement you just quoted here.
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    no, it's about dropping them from the list of State Sponsors of Terrorism...

    State Sponsors of Terrorism
    From your link it states "Countries determined by the Secretary of State to have repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism are designated pursuant to three laws: section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act, section 40 of the Arms Export Control Act, and section 620A of the Foreign Assistance Act." When we look at all the Acts provided the US has fit all of them to a T. Now I have all 3 acts in pdf format so I cannot copy each act with the corresponding claim that also ties the US.

    My first few links provided documentation on how the CIA trained and armed para-military groups which falls under all 3 Acts. The CIA training and aiding the individuals who bombed a civillian airline comes under all 3 Acts. Without going into the deatails because we would be here for days, we find the US is in fact a State Sponsor of Terrorism. So no matter which definition you want to give us the US itself still falls into that category.

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