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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I don't care about your personal opinion on the matter... I'm speaking legalities.
    Prove that!
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's ****ing retarded, no matter who believes it to be true.

    terror
    noun ter·ror \ˈter-ər, ˈte-rər\
    : a very strong feeling of fear

    : something that causes very strong feelings of fear : something that is terrifying

    : violence that is committed by a person, group, or government in order to frighten people and achieve a political goal.

    Terror | Definition of terror by Merriam-Webster
    I'm sorry you find domestic law and international law to be "****ing retarded"... but that's a problem you'll have to work out on your own.

    not even the US recognized state terrorism as a legal doctrine... which is why we have a list of State Sponsors of terrorism and not a list of Terrorist States.
    the UN doesn't recognize State terrorism, but finds that certain acts fall under different headings, such as acts of war.. or acts in violation to certain treaties and compacts.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Never said it was a "legal doctrine".
    ok... so it's just your personal opinion.....an opinion not backed in any legal doctrine anywhere on the planet.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I'm sorry you find domestic law and international law to be "****ing retarded"... but that's a problem you'll have to work out on your own.

    not even the US recognized state terrorism as a legal doctrine... which is why we have a list of State Sponsors of terrorism and not a list of Terrorist States.
    the UN doesn't recognize State terrorism, but finds that certain acts fall under different headings, such as acts of war.. or acts in violation to certain treaties and compacts.
    Lol. Well isn't that convenient. The U.S. Doesn't "recognize" any of its shortcomings, nor the authority of the ICC. Nor the authority of the UN if it conflicts with US policy. Why'd you quote websters definition of terror only to ignore it?

    State terrorism refers to acts of terrorism conducted by a state against a foreign state or people, or against its own people.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ok... so it's just your personal opinion.....an opinion not backed in any legal doctrine anywhere on the planet.
    Well we arent really having a debate framed around "legal doctrines"... Look at the post you quoted, and look at the discussion and the context of the dicsussion. CRUE CAB said, "Have they given up said oppression?". I simply asked, "Why should that be a precondition to setting up diplomatic relations?". He responded by saying, "Why shouldn't it .". And I responded, "Because we dont apply it to other countries... Thus making the precondition meaningless". Nothing was really put into a "legal" context, until you came in saying, "thats an interesting legal doctrine". What do you mean by "legal doctrine"? Does the statement(s) you are making have any real relevance?
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Why should that be a precondition to setting up diplomatic relations?
    Asking that question makes me think you have no problems being best buds with dictators

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Your concerns are being addressed in Obama's new Cuban policy.

    U.S., Cuba hold first formal talks on human rights
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    A bunch of ****. Obama won't ask Cuba to give up it's oppressive ways. He wants a deal....any deal so he can salvage his disasterous legacy.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    A bunch of ****. Obama won't ask Cuba to give up it's oppressive ways. He wants a deal....any deal so he can salvage his disasterous legacy.
    Normalizing relations with Cuba will salvage his legacy, hmm.
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. Well isn't that convenient. The U.S. Doesn't "recognize" any of its shortcomings, nor the authority of the ICC. Nor the authority of the UN if it conflicts with US policy. Why'd you quote websters definition of terror only to ignore it?

    State terrorism refers to acts of terrorism conducted by a state against a foreign state or people, or against its own people.

    State terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    it's not about only the US... State terrorism doesn't legally apply to any state on the planet.
    not only do we(the US) not acknowledge out own actions as terrorism, we don't acknowledge any state actions as terrorism.

    you posted the wiki link... now read the whole thing... it give a basic understanding.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it's not about only the US... State terrorism doesn't legally apply to any state on the planet.
    not only do we(the US) not acknowledge out own actions as terrorism, we don't acknowledge any state actions as terrorism.

    you posted the wiki link... now read the whole thing... it give a basic understanding.
    I never said it was only about the U.S. And I'm saying that as a matter of convenience, not recognizing your own terrorism as terrorism is ridiculous. That doesn't mean it isn't. No wonder you wingers think the U.S. has never committed terrorism, just deny it and poof, it goes away.

    The Encyclopędia Britannica Online defines terrorism generally as "the systematic use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective", and states that "terrorism is not legally defined in all jurisdictions." The encyclopedia adds that "[e]stablishment terrorism, often called state or state-sponsored terrorism, is employed by governments -- or more often by factions within governments -- against that government's citizens, against factions within the government, or against foreign governments or groups."[2]

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism
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