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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Vietnam is not 90 miles off our coast.
    Even more reason to open up relations with Cuba.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    His loyalty needs to be with the US.
    So diplomacy is a traitorous act?


    Not with Cuba and other nations that wish to harm us. Now or in the past.
    We fought two wars against Britain. Clearly they wished us harm in the past. According to your logic, we should just continue holding that grudge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I feel the same way, not much of a supporter, but credit where credits due, this is a success. And had Bush done this, there'd be no end to the praises of him, and the right would be declaring the capital benefits that will be realized as a result. Partisan politics are so damn destructive.
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    So diplomacy is a traitorous act?




    We fought two wars against Britain. Clearly they wished us harm in the past. According to your logic, we should just continue holding that grudge.
    Is Britain 90 miles off our coast?

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Is Britain 90 miles off our coast?
    Isn't it great how our president makes nice with murderous regimes like Cuba and Iran? How stupid were all the other presidents before him that just didn't want to deal with terrorist, dictatorial, hostile countries?

    And I see all the Obama supporters here, just as clueless. But I guess it's working, because the big dummy announced to them that we are more respected in the world than ever before. And they eat that right up, without question.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Is Britain 90 miles off our coast?
    So we shouldnt have any diplomatic relations with any country who is "close" to ours?
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Isn't it great how our president makes nice with murderous regimes like Cuba and Iran?
    C'mon... Dont even act like the reason we have or dont have diplomatic relations with certain countries has to do with their human rights record or if they are "murderous"....
    How stupid were all the other presidents before him that just didn't want to deal with terrorist, dictatorial, hostile countries?
    We dont have relations with other "hostile" countries?
    And I see all the Obama supporters here, just as clueless. But I guess it's working, because the big dummy announced to them that we are more respected in the world than ever before. And they eat that right up, without question.
    Well whats the actual, valid reasoning to keep them on this list, and not to have diplomatic relations with Cuba?
    He may be the worst, most damaging president we ever had, but he could never have done it without the army of convenient idiots that put him in office.
    Whats going to happen with relations with Cuba? What will be the consequences?
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    C'mon... Dont even act like the reason we have or dont have diplomatic relations with certain countries has to do with their human rights record or if they are "murderous".... We dont have relations with other "hostile" countries?Well whats the actual, valid reasoning to keep them on this list, and not to have diplomatic relations with Cuba?Whats going to happen with relations with Cuba? What will be the consequences?
    Every country is different, that's why you can't just say, "Well, we trade with country A, so why shouldn't we trade with country B?"
    Unless you are so uninformed, as is Obama, to think that it is all the same.

    What has Cuba done for us to deserve this? They spy on us, sell information to the Russian, and spread anti American rhetoric throughout Central America.

    Why should we help a police state like Cuba keep it's grip on it's people?
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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    From the Council on Foreign Relations.

    The United States has maintained an economic embargo, a broad travel ban and a host of punitive diplomatic measures against Cuba for nearly 50 years. Keeping such policies on the books any longer serves no foreign policy, national security or even substantial domestic political agenda: the status quo undermines all three. I am not the first person to argue that the time has come to open a different chapter with Cuba, nor are you the first president who will read a memo arguing as much. In fact, you are the 10th president of the United States to inherit a broken and utterly small-minded policy toward Cuba. And you are the first president since Dwight D. Eisenhower to take office when Fidel Castro was not at the helm on the island.

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    Re: Cuba officially off U.S. terror blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Every country is different, that's why you can't just say, "Well, we trade with country A, so why shouldn't we trade with country B?"
    Unless you are so uninformed, as is Obama, to think that it is all the same.
    So whats the reasoning behind Cuba? Because you reasoning of, "well they dont have a good human rights record" is quite hypocritical, especially when held up to A LOT of countries we do business with...

    What has Cuba done for us to deserve this?
    What have they done since the cold war not to?

    They spy on us, sell information to the Russian, and spread anti American rhetoric throughout Central America.
    You know what they say to this: "You tried to overthrow our government. Invade us. Had plans to kill our leader 638 times. Blockaded us (which technically is a declaration of war). Had the UN on a 23rd almost unanimous vote tell the US to end the blockade. Occupied part of our land. Harbored a terrorist who murdered 73 innocent Cubans. Spread anti-Cuban rhetoric throughout Cuba. Send numerous spies be them direct CIA or via 'USAID' (which has admittley been used as a spy program in Cuba).". So I guess one can say Cubas actions are in "defense" of their basic sovereignty, no?

    Why should we help a police state like Cuba keep it's grip on it's people?
    Again. Dont act like the US gives a **** about whether a country is a police state or not...
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