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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    Don't know much about the case to even speculate at this point. If he's guilt then no sympathy for him in the least.

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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    I read here often that only Dems are dirty and corrupt.

    Both sides are dirty as hell but I do find it funny when conservatives point to the Kennedy's and the Clinton's but think their side's corruption is on a lesser scale.
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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    well, he's accountable to the law like anyone else.... but I've always had reservations about those laws, so i'm not going to judge him harshly for those "crimes"... if found guilty of not disclosing and it is found that his money did not go to illegal activities, he should get no more than a 100 dollar fine.... at most.

    the whole "war on cash" is rather bothersome ....

    making a false statement to investigators is another matter...I have zero problems with him being punished for lying, and the punishment should carry jail time. ....unfortunately, there's a lot of people who support lying to authorities and lying under oath.

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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Don't know much about the case to even speculate at this point. If he's guilt then no sympathy for him in the least.
    Nope. But that's my point--let's find out more before speculating.

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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    I read here often that only Dems are dirty and corrupt.

    Both sides are dirty as hell but I do find it funny when conservatives point to the Kennedy's and the Clinton's but think their side's corruption is on a lesser scale.
    There's been a couple conservatives show up to offer their criticisms of Hastert, so credit where credits due, it would go such a LONG way if partisans held their own accountable, just imagine the change that alone would bring to Washington. To the extent that American voters will overlook wrong doing in their own party is evidence that the electorate is as responsible for the corruption in Washington as the politicians so engaged.
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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, he's accountable to the law like anyone else.... but I've always had reservations about those laws, so i'm not going to judge him harshly for those "crimes"... if found guilty of not disclosing and it is found that his money did not go to illegal activities, he should get no more than a 100 dollar fine.... at most.

    the whole "war on cash" is rather bothersome ....

    making a false statement to investigators is another matter...I have zero problems with him being punished for lying, and the punishment should carry jail time. ....unfortunately, there's a lot of people who support lying to authorities and lying under oath.
    I totally agree with you about the law. But as we're always told, lobby for changing the law, and in the meantime...........................!!
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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There's been a couple conservatives show up to offer their criticisms of Hastert, so credit where credits due
    It's early.

    As far as corruption in DC goes I remember the Jack Abramoff affair. The guy was dirty as hell, many thought then that there would be a clean-up in DC after he nd many dirty GOP politicians got caught. Was there? Nope, not even a ripple. And I'm not bringing that up because Abramoff was a Republican lobbyist greasing the palms of Republican politicians, because IMO the Dems were more to blame for nothing getting done in cleaning up DC. The Dems didn't raise a stink, they didn't hold the GOP's feet to the fire concerning Abramoff. Why? Because the Dems and their lobbyists are just as dirty.

    There's too much money in our politics nowadays. These guys don't get into politics to govern, many get in to get rich. The foxes are watching the hen house, so nothing will get done.
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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    It's early.

    As far as corruption in DC goes I remember the Jack Abramoff affair. The guy was dirty as hell, many thought then that there would be a clean-up in DC after he nd many dirty GOP politicians got caught. Was there? Nope, not even a ripple. And I'm not bringing that up because Abramoff was a Republican lobbyist greasing the palms of Republican politicians, because IMO the Dems were more to blame for nothing getting done in cleaning up DC. The Dems didn't raise a stink, they didn't hold the GOP's feet to the fire concerning Abramoff. Why? Because the Dems and their lobbyists are just as dirty.

    There's too much money in our politics nowadays. These guys don't get into politics to govern, many get in to get rich. The foxes are watching the hen house, so nothing will get done.
    I find no disagreement with you there.
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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I totally agree with you about the law. But as we're always told, lobby for changing the law, and in the meantime...........................!!
    yup.. he's still accountable ..even to stupid laws.

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    Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted by federal grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yup.. he's still accountable ..even to stupid laws.
    That's the point. I wonder which candidates, if any, are interested in changing this law!!!
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