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Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
Defense contracts are big money that Senators love to take home to their State.
Defense contracts are big money that Senators love to take home to their State.
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
So what's the conspiracy here? That they gave money to Clinton and Clinton in turn ensured that they purchased more weapons from us?
So what's the conspiracy here? That they gave money to Clinton and Clinton in turn ensured that they purchased more weapons from us?
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
That Clinton's decision making process was driven by kick backs.
That Clinton's decision making process was driven by kick backs.
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
But we had evidence that he did. We dont have evidence here. Understand the difference?
But we had evidence that he did. We dont have evidence here. Understand the difference?
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
No. I didn't see Sadam gassing anybody. Understand, I needed to see him personally doing the job. Evidence, schmevidence, unless he's the guy holding the gas canisters, I'm not buying it. Or, alternatively, you can follow the trail and convict him, but then, the Clinton's might suffer with that trail business. That's if you believe that after a certain number of coincidences, a pattern might emerge.
No. I didn't see Sadam gassing anybody. Understand, I needed to see him personally doing the job. Evidence, schmevidence, unless he's the guy holding the gas canisters, I'm not buying it. Or, alternatively, you can follow the trail and convict him, but then, the Clinton's might suffer with that trail business. That's if you believe that after a certain number of coincidences, a pattern might emerge.
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
Or, what difference does it make? That was years ago.
Or, what difference does it make? That was years ago.
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
Another conservative that doesnt care about evidence. Thats not something that you dont see everyday.
Another conservative that doesnt care about evidence. Thats not something that you dont see everyday.
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
So there isn't a pattern of abuse of office? Are you claiming all of the uncovered evidence is coincidental?
So there isn't a pattern of abuse of office? Are you claiming all of the uncovered evidence is coincidental?
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Now we know why Hillary is a gun grabber-so she can sell em to whoever pays her off.
Now we know why Hillary is a gun grabber-so she can sell em to whoever pays her off.
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That's just pointing out that you never gave a **** when it was Halliburton.
That's just pointing out that you never gave a **** when it was Halliburton.
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I think the F-16s are a bit more of interest, personally.
Now we know why Hillary is a gun grabber-so she can sell em to whoever pays her off.
I think the F-16s are a bit more of interest, personally.
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
Uncovered evidence?
Haha, oh **** thats great stuff. You keep telling yourself that.
Uncovered evidence?
Haha, oh **** thats great stuff. You keep telling yourself that.
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That's right. Because (and, this is important) Dick Cheney had no clue if he held Halliburton stock or not while Vice President, since his entire holdings were placed in a blind trust.
That's just pointing out that you never gave a **** when it was Halliburton.
That's right. Because (and, this is important) Dick Cheney had no clue if he held Halliburton stock or not while Vice President, since his entire holdings were placed in a blind trust.
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I'm not surprised in the least. If you are honest with yourself you must also ask who benefits the most from it. Defense contractors. The military industrial complex is going to get what they want most of the time. That it was Hillary who helped facilitate it in the instances above is no shock.
This changes nothing about my attitude toward Hillary. I was never going to vote for her to begin with.
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I'm not surprised in the least. If you are honest with yourself you must also ask who benefits the most from it. Defense contractors. The military industrial complex is going to get what they want most of the time. That it was Hillary who helped facilitate it in the instances above is no shock.
This changes nothing about my attitude toward Hillary. I was never going to vote for her to begin with.
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
If only they'd give more to the poor, we could all support the big evil Industrial Defense Complex!
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I've uncovered nothing. The NYT and others are reporting what's been found. I've simply read what has been reported. I have no doubt that any problems revealed can be cleared up by Hillary if there's anything of substance to the reports. She's made a point of addressing these things so far, hasn't she?
I've uncovered nothing. The NYT and others are reporting what's been found. I've simply read what has been reported. I have no doubt that any problems revealed can be cleared up by Hillary if there's anything of substance to the reports. She's made a point of addressing these things so far, hasn't she?
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Cmon now HB, you have to remember the Clintons and their Cult members are still putting out the word that its the Mean Old Republicans that are breaking all news out on them. So you know how that works.
They think this will work. Blame Republicans for what the MS media is doing. Its some of that there smart power they like to talk about. Like I said.....talk about.
Cmon now HB, you have to remember the Clintons and their Cult members are still putting out the word that its the Mean Old Republicans that are breaking all news out on them. So you know how that works.
They think this will work. Blame Republicans for what the MS media is doing. Its some of that there smart power they like to talk about. Like I said.....talk about.
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:lamo Wow. And who told you that one? So I guess it was a coincidence that Halliburton got over a billion dollars in contracts while he was in office, and that "deferred compensation" didn't exist.That's right. Because (and, this is important) Dick Cheney had no clue if he held Halliburton stock or not while Vice President, since his entire holdings were placed in a blind trust.
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Do you have any credible evidence that Cheney acted improperly??
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
Would you care to bet, say, a platinum membership over whether or not Dick Cheney put his investments in a blind trust while serving as VP?
I believe the standard is "smoking gun".
Would you care to bet, say, a platinum membership over whether or not Dick Cheney put his investments in a blind trust while serving as VP?
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I believe the standard is "smoking gun".
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I don't believe Deuce will take that bet.
I don't believe Deuce will take that bet.
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Mornin USC. :2wave: Nor do I.
Mornin USC. :2wave: Nor do I.
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Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme
Honestly, without further information this is a bit of a shoulder shrug from me. Did those countries ever recieve weapon deals previously? It seems like it, even if it was an increase. Did other countries who didn't give money recieve similar deals? It doesn't really say.
To me this is like the "OMG! Cheney was part of Halliburton, not they're using Halliburton! CONSPIRACY! CORRUPTION" stuff of the last administration. There were a multitude of legitimate reasons why Halliburton would've been chose, as there likely is in this case as well. Unless there's some kind of significant smoking gun to suggest an investigation would be anywhere near worth while, it's much ado about nothing for me.
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Honestly, without further information this is a bit of a shoulder shrug from me. Did those countries ever recieve weapon deals previously? It seems like it, even if it was an increase. Did other countries who didn't give money recieve similar deals? It doesn't really say.
To me this is like the "OMG! Cheney was part of Halliburton, not they're using Halliburton! CONSPIRACY! CORRUPTION" stuff of the last administration. There were a multitude of legitimate reasons why Halliburton would've been chose, as there likely is in this case as well. Unless there's some kind of significant smoking gun to suggest an investigation would be anywhere near worth while, it's much ado about nothing for me.
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Lets take a look at Algeria. You tell us what Algeria needed Chems, Biological, and Toxicological agents for and when the year prior they never received such from us.
The International Business Times reports that during Clinton’s tenure, “the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation,” a figure that represents “nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries” during the previous Bush Administration. In addition, the Clinton State Department approved $151 billion in “Pentagon-brokered deals” with 16 other donor countries, and reportedly resulted in “between $54 million and $141 million” of donations to the foundation (and the corresponding hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clintons themselves). Though they were unable to find the exact dates these governments made to the Foundation, IBT noted that seven of those governments’ donations coincided with Clinton-approved weapons deals. For instance, here’s how they dealt with Algeria:
In its 2010 Human Rights Report, Clinton’s State Department inveighed against Algeria’s government for imposing “restrictions on freedom of assembly and association” tolerating “arbitrary killing,” “widespread corruption,” and a “lack of judicial independence.” The report said the Algerian government “used security grounds to constrain freedom of expression and movement.”
That year, the Algerian government donated $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation and its lobbyists met with the State Department officials who oversee enforcement of human rights policies. Clinton’s State Department the next year approved a one-year 70 percent increase in military export authorizations to the country. The increase included authorizations of almost 50,000 items classified as “toxicological agents, including chemical agents, biological agents and associated equipment” after the State Department did not authorize the export of any of such items to Algeria in the prior year.....snip~
Hillary’s State Dept Reportedly Authorized Weapons Deals for Countries That Donated to Foundation | Mediaite
Lets take a look at Algeria. You tell us what Algeria needed Chems, Biological, and Toxicological agents for and when the year prior they never received such from us.
The International Business Times reports that during Clinton’s tenure, “the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation,” a figure that represents “nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries” during the previous Bush Administration. In addition, the Clinton State Department approved $151 billion in “Pentagon-brokered deals” with 16 other donor countries, and reportedly resulted in “between $54 million and $141 million” of donations to the foundation (and the corresponding hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clintons themselves). Though they were unable to find the exact dates these governments made to the Foundation, IBT noted that seven of those governments’ donations coincided with Clinton-approved weapons deals. For instance, here’s how they dealt with Algeria:
In its 2010 Human Rights Report, Clinton’s State Department inveighed against Algeria’s government for imposing “restrictions on freedom of assembly and association” tolerating “arbitrary killing,” “widespread corruption,” and a “lack of judicial independence.” The report said the Algerian government “used security grounds to constrain freedom of expression and movement.”
That year, the Algerian government donated $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation and its lobbyists met with the State Department officials who oversee enforcement of human rights policies. Clinton’s State Department the next year approved a one-year 70 percent increase in military export authorizations to the country. The increase included authorizations of almost 50,000 items classified as “toxicological agents, including chemical agents, biological agents and associated equipment” after the State Department did not authorize the export of any of such items to Algeria in the prior year.....snip~
Hillary’s State Dept Reportedly Authorized Weapons Deals for Countries That Donated to Foundation | Mediaite