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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I'm not surprised in the least. If you are honest with yourself you must also ask who benefits the most from it. Defense contractors. The military industrial complex is going to get what they want most of the time. That it was Hillary who helped facilitate it in the instances above is no shock.

    This changes nothing about my attitude toward Hillary. I was never going to vote for her to begin with.
    If only they'd give more to the poor, we could all support the big evil Industrial Defense Complex!
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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Uncovered evidence?

    Haha, oh **** thats great stuff. You keep telling yourself that.
    I've uncovered nothing. The NYT and others are reporting what's been found. I've simply read what has been reported. I have no doubt that any problems revealed can be cleared up by Hillary if there's anything of substance to the reports. She's made a point of addressing these things so far, hasn't she?

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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I've uncovered nothing. The NYT and others are reporting what's been found. I've simply read what has been reported. I have no doubt that any problems revealed can be cleared up by Hillary if there's anything of substance to the reports. She's made a point of addressing these things so far, hasn't she?

    Cmon now HB, you have to remember the Clintons and their Cult members are still putting out the word that its the Mean Old Republicans that are breaking all news out on them. So you know how that works.

    They think this will work. Blame Republicans for what the MS media is doing. Its some of that there smart power they like to talk about. Like I said.....talk about.

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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's right. Because (and, this is important) Dick Cheney had no clue if he held Halliburton stock or not while Vice President, since his entire holdings were placed in a blind trust.
    Wow. And who told you that one? So I guess it was a coincidence that Halliburton got over a billion dollars in contracts while he was in office, and that "deferred compensation" didn't exist.
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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Wow. And who told you that one? So I guess it was a coincidence that Halliburton got over a billion dollars in contracts while he was in office, and that "deferred compensation" didn't exist.
    Do you have any credible evidence that Cheney acted improperly??

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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Wow. And who told you that one?
    Would you care to bet, say, a platinum membership over whether or not Dick Cheney put his investments in a blind trust while serving as VP?


    Quote Originally Posted by Grant
    Do you have any credible evidence that Cheney acted improperly??
    I believe the standard is "smoking gun".

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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Would you care to bet, say, a platinum membership over whether or not Dick Cheney put his investments in a blind trust while serving as VP?




    I believe the standard is "smoking gun".
    I don't believe Deuce will take that bet.

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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

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    I don't believe Deuce will take that bet.
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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Honestly, without further information this is a bit of a shoulder shrug from me. Did those countries ever recieve weapon deals previously? It seems like it, even if it was an increase. Did other countries who didn't give money recieve similar deals? It doesn't really say.

    To me this is like the "OMG! Cheney was part of Halliburton, not they're using Halliburton! CONSPIRACY! CORRUPTION" stuff of the last administration. There were a multitude of legitimate reasons why Halliburton would've been chose, as there likely is in this case as well. Unless there's some kind of significant smoking gun to suggest an investigation would be anywhere near worth while, it's much ado about nothing for me.

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    Re: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Departme

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Honestly, without further information this is a bit of a shoulder shrug from me. Did those countries ever recieve weapon deals previously? It seems like it, even if it was an increase. Did other countries who didn't give money recieve similar deals? It doesn't really say.

    To me this is like the "OMG! Cheney was part of Halliburton, not they're using Halliburton! CONSPIRACY! CORRUPTION" stuff of the last administration. There were a multitude of legitimate reasons why Halliburton would've been chose, as there likely is in this case as well. Unless there's some kind of significant smoking gun to suggest an investigation would be anywhere near worth while, it's much ado about nothing for me.



    Lets take a look at Algeria. You tell us what Algeria needed Chems, Biological, and Toxicological agents for and when the year prior they never received such from us.




    The International Business Times reports that during Clinton’s tenure, “the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation,” a figure that represents “nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries” during the previous Bush Administration. In addition, the Clinton State Department approved $151 billion in “Pentagon-brokered deals” with 16 other donor countries, and reportedly resulted in “between $54 million and $141 million” of donations to the foundation (and the corresponding hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clintons themselves). Though they were unable to find the exact dates these governments made to the Foundation, IBT noted that seven of those governments’ donations coincided with Clinton-approved weapons deals. For instance, here’s how they dealt with Algeria:

    In its 2010 Human Rights Report, Clinton’s State Department inveighed against Algeria’s government for imposing “restrictions on freedom of assembly and association” tolerating “arbitrary killing,” “widespread corruption,” and a “lack of judicial independence.” The report said the Algerian government “used security grounds to constrain freedom of expression and movement.”

    That year, the Algerian government donated $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation and its lobbyists met with the State Department officials who oversee enforcement of human rights policies. Clinton’s State Department the next year approved a one-year 70 percent increase in military export authorizations to the country. The increase included authorizations of almost 50,000 items classified as “toxicological agents, including chemical agents, biological agents and associated equipment” after the State Department did not authorize the export of any of such items to Algeria in the prior year.....snip~

    Hillary’s State Dept Reportedly Authorized Weapons Deals for Countries That Donated to Foundation | Mediaite

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