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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    so you CANT tell me why im not on topic? got it

    1.) really, so the posts i quoted just doet exist huh? i made it all up. A poster didnt make the false claim decades in prison could be "fixed" . . i guess somebody should go back and delete post 60 and 208 then LMAO sorry but im not wrong the claim was made and its false
    2.) never said I wanted it to give back time LOL please stick to things actually said and not make up strawman because just like the claim it could be fixed got destroyed any false claims or me wanting back time would be destroyed too

    abolishing the death penalty doesnt address the false conviction that are going on right now either . . .

    truth remains the claim that abolishing the death penalty "fixes it" is not a fact
    Abolishing the death penalty addresses the executions as a result of false convictions.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    1.)You've not destroyed my argument.
    2.) You've simply evaded it.
    3.)Your entire hypothetical about what happens to you after 20 years in prison is completely irrelevant to this subject.
    4.) It is relevant to a discussion of how the state should compensate wrongly convicted people and help them reintegrate into society by but it has nothing to do with a death penalty discussion.
    5.)Similarly your arguments about what goes on in prison are appropriate to discussions on prison reform. They have nothing to do with the death penalty.
    6.) No system will ever be perfect and with your comment that we need "to fix the system" you've implied one if two things:

    A. That the system can be made perfect or,
    B. That the error rate can be reduced to an acceptable level.

    7.) Since you now claim that the system cannot be made perfect you must then believe that there is an acceptable error rate. What is it?
    1.) its been factually destroyed because its been proven its not fixable . . only in your subjective opinion do you think so
    2.) this is a bold faced lie because i attacked head NOTHING was evaded . . post history proves that also . . try again
    3.) actually since that showed how your statement is factually false its 100% relevant, it shows its not a "fix" like you falsely claimed
    4.) see #3 you have already been proven wrong, it address your false claim of it being fixable
    5.) also false . . you cant claim that wrongful life in prison is fixable and not talk about what the life in prison may actually be, thats just silly, NOBODY honest, educated and objective will buy that dishonesty
    6.) already addressed this failed strawman . . never claimed any system would be perfect . . . if you disagree simply quote me saying that . . you will fail
    7.) already answered this . . .

    maybe you will answer ANY of the question i asked you instead of running from them and dodging them lol

    fact remains your statement is not a fact and claiming it can be fixed is nothing more than your subjective opinion and one that has been shown to be horrifically under thought
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Abolishing the death penalty addresses the executions as a result of false convictions.
    and what does that factually fix again? oh thats right . . .we already established that and proved the answer was . . . nothing . .
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and what does that factually fix again? oh thats right . . .we already established that and proved the answer was . . . nothing . .
    Okay. So if you're falsely convicted and given the death sentence, the people at the Innocence Project can tell you, "Hey, we'd love to overturn your conviction but obviously that would fix nothing, so have a nice death and all."

    Good thinkin.'

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Okay. So if you're falsely convicted and given the death sentence, the people at the Innocence Project can tell you, "Hey, we'd love to overturn your conviction but obviously that would fix nothing, so have a nice death and all."

    Good thinkin.'
    yep that exactly what i said! LMAO
    another failed starwman . . . .
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yep that exactly what i said! LMAO
    another failed starwman . . . .
    Alright, so let's say you're falsely convicted and you're on death row. Do we work to get your conviction overturned or would that fix nothing? We're here to serve you, AgentJ. Tell us how we can help.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Alright, so let's say you're falsely convicted and you're on death row. Do we work to get your conviction overturned or would that fix nothing? We're here to serve you, AgentJ. Tell us how we can help.

    how can YOU serve me?

    what does any of that have to do with previously identified statement being proven false?

    thats right . . .nothing

    to answer your question though on how to serve, you can stop with failed strawmen, thanks!
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    how can YOU serve me?

    what does any of that have to do with previously identified statement being proven false?

    thats right . . .nothing

    to answer your question though on how to serve, you can stop with failed strawmen, thanks!
    I just want to make sure we do the right thing -- I wouldn't want to disrespect your wishes. Do we help overturn your conviction or would that fix nothing?

    And by the way, simply saying "strawman" doesn't make it a strawman. You have to actually say why it's a strawman.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    what innocent people were executed?

    it's not a slippery slope argument... nor would I ever want anyone executed for shoplifting.

    i'm not arguing for a lesser sentences for heinous murderers (that would be y'all)... and i'm not arguing for stiffer penalties on shoplifters.
    ...have you not read the thread at all? Are you seriously challenging the idea that innocent people have been executed?

    You argued a slippery slope. Sorry. You don't get to hide from it.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    ...have you not read the thread at all? Are you seriously challenging the idea that innocent people have been executed?

    You argued a slippery slope. Sorry. You don't get to hide from it.
    I've interacted with Thrilla before and I know he doesn't really think that innocent people haven't been executed. But I am trying to wrap my head around the people who describe in the most graphic detail the murders of innocent people when arguing in favor of the death penalty, but when it comes to actual innocent people being executed based on false convictions, say, "Hey, whaddya gonna do? **** happens."

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