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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    The death penalty itself has never bothered me . . . .
    I actually wish it was expanded (rape and child rape option) and used more . . .

    now with that said ANY innocent person found guilty of a crime is terrible and an innocent person being put to death is also very horrific . . .

    but just like guns, cars, planes, medicine, alcohol etc etc are responsible for millions of deaths i have not ideas that they should be abolished . . .

    You fix whats wrong and improve counter measurements and protocol IMO.

    We have bad cops and judges . . . .we don't abolish all cops and judges we try to fix the real issue



    I would be simply on board with requiring a higher level of evidence for death . . . but I see no reason to abolish it . . .
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So keep a flawed, expensive system that innately consumes innocent life so that you have some bargaining chip? I’m not sure that makes sense. You can do what Colorado did and make the burden of proof for DP cases substantially higher and then I suppose if you have one of those “slam dunk” cases, you can still use it as a bargaining chip. But really, what happens if not? It goes to court. It’s not like these criminals get away with crimes just because the DP isn’t around.
    there's a of room between just plain old keeping it and throwing it away entirely.....

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    there's a of room between just plain old keeping it and throwing it away entirely.....
    Yeah, but it's unnecessary and expensive and flawed. There's really no reason to keep it.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, but it's unnecessary and expensive and flawed. There's really no reason to keep it.
    I have doubts to it being unnecessary and expensive... but flawed?...I'm thinking more along the lines of the prior proceedings potentially being flawed, not the penalty itself.
    getting rid of the penalty altogether does nothing to address any flaws... practically speaking it allows us to ignore those flaws and allows them to persist.

    it's a righteous penalty for a qualifying like crime.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I find it to be poor because an inclusion on a list of other countries is not a proper argument in and of itself....

    an argument to it's application being potentially faulty but nonetheless permanent is a valid argument... inclusion on a list is not.
    Got it. My bad. Thought you were talking about erroneously executing innocent people.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    how is it fixable?
    People are exonerated even after decades in prison. It doesn't happen often but it does happen.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    The death penalty itself has never bothered me . . . .
    I actually wish it was expanded (rape and child rape option) and used more . . .

    now with that said ANY innocent person found guilty of a crime is terrible and an innocent person being put to death is also very horrific . . .

    but just like guns, cars, planes, medicine, alcohol etc etc are responsible for millions of deaths i have not ideas that they should be abolished . . .

    You fix whats wrong and improve counter measurements and protocol IMO.

    We have bad cops and judges . . . .we don't abolish all cops and judges we try to fix the real issue



    I would be simply on board with requiring a higher level of evidence for death . . . but I see no reason to abolish it . . .
    Nicely done. I couldn't agree more with every point you made.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No. He claimed to be able to kill a human being without feeling a thing.

    I don't actually believe him. I think he's better than that.
    So you didn't call him a sociopath?
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