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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would be one thing if a guy shoots up a cafeteria and kills 15 people before the police apprehend him, and 50 people having dinner at the place identify him as the gunmen, but our system has administered the death penalty to far too many innocent people where there was scant evidence. I can't imagine a worse ending to life. And sense the discovery of positive identification by DNA, there's been a lot of people released from prison by retrial using DNA testing on old evidence. I'd rather ten guilty people spend there lives in prison as to see one innocent man hanged.
    well, if that guy kills 15..or even 50 in a Nebraska cafeteria... he'll get the same exact punishment as a guy who kills 1.

    seems fair

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, if that guy kills 15..or even 50 in a Nebraska cafeteria... he'll get the same exact punishment as a guy who kills 1.

    seems fair
    That's precisely why I oppose the death penalty, because its risky.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

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    True but Life in prison is not always the fitting of punishment for certain crimes.
    When considering a particular punishment, I find it helpful to remember there is a 100% chance that it will be sometimes inflicted upon an innocent person.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's precisely why I oppose the death penalty, because its risky.
    the punishment I was talking about was life without parole, not the death penalty.

    murder 1... murder 100.... murder a 10000
    there's no difference .....

    brutally rape a person... or kill them.... no difference.

    I think there are ways to make the applications of the death penalty better.... taking it off the tables isn't very just.. or smart.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the punishment I was talking about was life without parole, not the death penalty.

    murder 1... murder 100.... murder a 10000
    there's no difference .....

    brutally rape a person... or kill them.... no difference.

    I think there are ways to make the applications of the death penalty better.... taking it off the tables isn't very just.. or smart.
    Oh, I see. So that's similar to what I was saying, I might support the death penalty only in those cases that are cut and dry, the jury deliberates for a minute. I don't want the guy charged with murder in which there are no witnesses, and based upon what "evidence" there is, a jury deliberates for two weeks, give that dude life. But apparently they don't want to do it that way, it's all or nothing, so at this point, I say nothing.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    If only states and individuals morally opposed to legally taking the lives of others would apply the same to abortion we'd be set.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh, I see. So that's similar to what I was saying, I might support the death penalty only in those cases that are cut and dry, the jury deliberates for a minute. I don't want the guy charged with murder in which there are no witnesses, and based upon what "evidence" there is, a jury deliberates for two weeks, give that dude life. But apparently they don't want to do it that way, it's all or nothing, so at this point, I say nothing.
    I don't really disagree.... as I said, our application can be a lot better in many ways.

    doesn't matter though... not in Nebraska and the other states who have taken it off the table.

    additionally, even if it's not used, it can still be a good bargaining chip for prosecutors...
    it would probably be a better policy if they kept it on the table, but gave the DA a firm set of standards of when to employ it,.... it's better than scrapping it anyways.
    sure, it doesn't' sell well in bleeding heart populist circles... but it's a much better policy.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    If only states and individuals morally opposed to legally taking the lives of others would apply the same to abortion we'd be set.


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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    If only states and individuals morally opposed to legally taking the lives of others would apply the same to abortion we'd be set.
    yeah.. it's kinda odd how these two issues have similar underlying premises, but both sides of both issues remain consistency inconsistent. ( myself included)

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I don't really disagree.... as I said, our application can be a lot better in many ways.

    doesn't matter though... not in Nebraska and the other states who have taken it off the table.

    additionally, even if it's not used, it can still be a good bargaining chip for prosecutors...
    it would probably be a better policy if they kept it on the table, but gave the DA a firm set of standards of when to employ it,.... it's better than scrapping it anyways.
    sure, it doesn't' sell well in bleeding heart populist circles... but it's a much better policy.
    I'll take ten guilty guys doing life then one innocent man sent to the death chambers. We only get one life, and for me, it's got to be cut-and-dry!!!! Put yourself in the innocent guys shoes.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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