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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Again, due process (which is essentially our justice system), can be filled with errors.
    Anything Human can have errors I still support the Death Penalty.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyW View Post
    Yep...many of those errors are not convicting in the first place or by bleeding heart libs, to squeamish to vote for the DP.

    The Casper Milktoast effect is fine for some things....not in dealing with the scum of society.

    Again.....most of you folks here, have no idea what you are talking about...............because you have no practical experience with it!

    Same goes for honest citizens packing a gun....after learning the law and carrying it wisely. For those blanket anti-gun dopes out there....you don't have a clue.

    When I teach people in my ongoing classes, now into the 40th year....I wise them up to how stupid many jurors really are. They have never had a situation of fear as a victim, or know anything about owning a firearm......and are easily swayed in the Grand Jury, and during trial, by the Prosecutor.
    So jurors are stupid, so therefore we should put the accused to death by stupid peoples decisions? Uhhhh. What?
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Anything Human can have errors I still support the Death Penalty.
    So essentially you acknowledge that the US/State justice systems has killed innocent people/people who are not guilty and you are okay with that, why?
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    True but Life in prison is not always the fitting of punishment for certain crimes.
    Right, that's why when they find someone who is innocent in jail, they release them. If we put them to death, they what would we do?

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    I don't think most folks will disagree over life without parole in lieu of the death penalty.... but as our system employs plea deals to a great degree.. i'd be curious to know how they feel about murders facing shorter sentences than they otherwise would have without the death penalty being employed as a plea bargain chip.

    in very real terms, we're lowering the bargaining chip ceiling here.... life without parole becomes the new ceiling.
    as all sides ( judge, defense, and prosecution) benefit from plea bargains... so it is known that there is pressure to strike a deal present.... if life without parole is the ceiling, do we not face face the very real potential of unjust light sentencing in cases of what we all consider to be our most heinous crime?

    I dunno.. I feel this is a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, in some respects.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyW View Post
    Wrong! It's more than necessary and they need to do it to more of these scum....

    liberal dopes don't have a clue of what heinous monsters these people are. Keeping them alive to victimize others and bleed the taxpayers.... is like allowing a Black Widow to live on your property.

    Executing these cockroaches is a benefit to society and stops them from victimizing others....for****ingever!
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    We had a Texas case where a guy lured a little girl out of a Walmart then strangled and burned her to death. I honestly don't understand how anyone could not want someone like that dead.
    Because when they are dead, it's over for them. Their punishment is over. Keep them alive in solitary confinement...

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So essentially you acknowledge that the US/State justice systems has killed innocent people/people who are not guilty and you are okay with that, why?
    I've been on the fence with the Death Penalty for some time. Let me explain. I am absolutely in support of the Death Penalty. However, it's become a circus and an extraordinarily expensive process.

    A little background.

    My wife's college roommate was kidnapped, raped, tortured, and inexplicably, but thankfully, set free after 24 hours, by a man who had just previously killed one woman, and raped and tortured three others.

    Caught, he was found guilty, and sentenced to death. This all happened in Southern California before I married my wife. Next January, my wife and I will celebrate our 36th wedding anniversary. Stevie Lamar Fields continues to sit on death row. Unbelievable.

    So, this is absurd. The Death Penalty as practiced in most states is a fools parade of insanity. I believe these non-humans would be better placed in the general population in state prisons, where the possibility of finding someone to kill them is dramatically increased.

    Much cheaper, and potentially, much more brutal a life style if they manage to survive.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Yes I am concerned about that but in rare cases where it's a slam dunk case the person did it and it's a horrendous crime then the person doesn't deserve to live. Raping and then burning to death a little girl as one poster gave as an example is just the kind of crime where I don't feel anything for that person and hope they burn to death as well. I can be compassionate until someone tortures and kills human beings for their own sick pleasure.
    Presumably you need assurances that the person which has been apprehended and charged is in fact the person guilty of the crime. The slam dunk you refer to, which IMO includes a credible witness or two, is the jury that deliberates for thirty minutes, say long enough for the foreperson to read the charges, a brief discussion to ensure everybody correctly understands the language and nature of them and they vote unanimously, guilty, bam. If there are no witnesses to the crime, after hearing all the other types of evidence presented, a jury deliberates for a week or two, I start getting uneasy about a death penalty. Sometimes a jury has just one person that's having major difficulties with the conviction, of course that one can hang it up, but I'll bet there have been times where that one has been wore down over the course of days of deliberation, perhaps convinced to go along, maybe even with reservations. My personal position on that type of scenario is no DP.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    I'll never understand the hardon some people have for state-sanctioned revenge killing.
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