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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Death penalty inmates are quite the opposite. They have to eat and sleep their coming fate on a daily basis, and the mental anguish and fears that accompany it. It's a life of hell before death.
    Sounds like rough few years for people sent to death row by mistake. Even more so if the Innocence Project is too undermanned to take on his case and if there's no DNA evidence to exonerate him.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyW View Post
    Your example is as irrational as it gets! No one executes any kids and certainly not for selling pot....GET REAL!
    You said yourself that you wanted to expand the DP to include drug dealers. That wasn't me, that was you. It is irrational to call for the death of non-violent offenders. If you meant something else, perhaps you should have said something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyW View Post
    There are many other inmates in state and federal prisons that are only there for a short time and for much lesser felonies........often times, those people are raped or murdered by the heinous animals that you bleeding hearts want to save! And many guards are assaulted and murdered by these same people.
    Yes, much of the current prison system needs to be overhauled. That doesn't mean that we should start killing more inmates, however.

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    So let's change the law, and do away with the red tape and streamline the system. I want to see the Easy Button to a Firing Squad!
    So exacerbate all the problems with the DP then, huh? Not so long ago, Illinois had to put a moratorium on its DP because they found too many innocent people on death row. But we should have just fast tracked their deaths, huh?

    No, that's irrational. The system is flawed and offers no benefit, it's best to do away with it.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Good on Nebraska. I've never been a proponent of the death penalty.

    I would say, however, that "Life in Solitary" should be added to available sentences since a prisoner who is sentenced to life needs to still have something worse hanging over their head or they are essentially free to do what they want in prison.
    I don't think that's a problem. There have been a number of articles in recent years about the fast rise in the use of solitary confinement in the U.S. And we do have various supermax prisons, and those just below them, and areas within traditional prisons and jails, that house something like 80-90,000 inmates in solitary.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Through Due Process, Yes
    Again, due process (which is essentially our justice system), can be filled with errors.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, what do you expect me to think then? You don't seem especially worried about innocent people going to death row, which leads me to one of two conclusions:

    a)Innocent people aren't going to death row, or
    b)It's no big deal for innocent people to go to death row

    Which is it? If there's a third option I'm all ears.
    1. I'm fully aware of the Innocence Project!

    2. Of course, I don't think people who are innocent should get the DP!

    3. If innocent people are on Death Row, it wasn't because I put them there....and their cases are out of my hands. (Read, not up to me to decide their plight, so pardon me if I don't get all squishy over it)

    4. One thing that I do believe in is Karma, or whatever you'd like to call it....and some folks finally get their just dues after skating so many times in the past.....and I have personally seen a lot of people skate on technicalities, when I knew they were guilty. Mostly drug dealers and violent rapists. I can tell you hundreds of accounts of that type of thing.

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Sounds like rough few years for people sent to death row by mistake. Even more so if the Innocence Project is too undermanned to take on his case and if there's no DNA evidence to exonerate him.
    It's rough years for those folks who commit white collar crimes and are in for 5-10 years and are subjected to the heinous animals that should have been quickly put to death, in the first place! Ever think of that?

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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Again, due process (which is essentially our justice system), can be filled with errors.
    Yep...many of those errors are not convicting in the first place or by bleeding heart libs, to squeamish to vote for the DP.

    The Casper Milktoast effect is fine for some things....not in dealing with the scum of society.

    Again.....most of you folks here, have no idea what you are talking about...............because you have no practical experience with it!

    Same goes for honest citizens packing a gun....after learning the law and carrying it wisely. For those blanket anti-gun dopes out there....you don't have a clue.

    When I teach people in my ongoing classes, now into the 40th year....I wise them up to how stupid many jurors really are. They have never had a situation of fear as a victim, or know anything about owning a firearm......and are easily swayed in the Grand Jury, and during trial, by the Prosecutor.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyW View Post
    Angry only at the silly attitudes of bleeding heart libs!

    Sociopath? How about Realist! Take off your liberal educated blinders!!

    I've worked the prison system....and the streets. Most of you are book smart with no practical education whatsoever.
    Every sociopath thinks they're logical.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyW View Post
    1. I'm fully aware of the Innocence Project!

    2. Of course, I don't think people who are innocent should get the DP!

    3. If innocent people are on Death Row, it wasn't because I put them there....and their cases are out of my hands. (Read, not up to me to decide their plight, so pardon me if I don't get all squishy over it)

    4. One thing that I do believe in is Karma, or whatever you'd like to call it....and some folks finally get their just dues after skating so many times in the past.....and I have personally seen a lot of people skate on technicalities, when I knew they were guilty. Mostly drug dealers and violent rapists. I can tell you hundreds of accounts of that type of thing.
    Is this supposed to be a rebuttal? You didn't do it?

    No, but you want to fast track the execution of those innocent people along with the guilty ones. You want it to be less likely the innocent person gets exonerated.
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    Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Why is it a poor argument to you? I find it one of the most compelling arguments.

    The cost of the death penalty is knowing that it can never always be applied justly and that the state will kill people in your name that did nothing to deserve it.
    I'm not willing to pay that price.
    I find it to be poor because an inclusion on a list of other countries is not a proper argument in and of itself....

    an argument to it's application being potentially faulty but nonetheless permanent is a valid argument... inclusion on a list is not.

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