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    Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South China

    I think (hope) a war with China is extremely unlikely. It would no doubt be devastating to both nations.

    Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South China Sea - Asia - World - The Independent

    China has upped its military posturing, issuing a strategy paper saying Beijing would “surely counterattack if attacked” by an enemy amid concerns from the US and neighbouring countries over its developments in the South China Sea. The release of the document came shortly after Beijing lodged a complaint against the US for flying a surveillance jet over disputed territory in the South China Sea, where China is building artificial islands. Chinese state media reported that the white paper, issued by the state council, the country’s cabinet, underscored that Beijing was committed to world peace and believed that a world war was unlikely. But it added that “small-scale wars, conflicts and crises are recurrent in some regions”. The state-owned news agency Xinhua highlighted one particular phrase, which appeared in the “Strategic Guideline of Active Defence” section: “We will not attack unless attacked, but we will surely counterattack if attacked.”

    Much to the concern of its neighbours and the US, China, the dominant powerhouse in the region, has been building artificial islands and buildings in the disputed South China Sea, where the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan all have overlapping claims. In one area, the Spratly islands, the US says China has created 2,000 acres of land, with satellite images showing what appears to be an airstrip. The paper said that China’s armed forces would work to “resolutely safeguard China’s sovereignty [and] security and development interests” and work towards “realising the Chinese dream of achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation”. Announcing its release, the People’s Liberation Army spokesman Yang Yujun appeared to be referring to the US when he said that “outside powers” were attempting to “tarnish the Chinese military’s reputation and create an atmosphere of exaggerated tension.” He added: “We cannot eliminate the possibility that this is to create excuses for the actions that certain countries may be planning to take.”

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    I undersand Taiwan Who cares about threats of it?
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    China s extremely dependent on the US to keep it's citizens employed and happy. I doubt they would initiate an armed confrontation with the US but then again, now would be the time to do it.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Lets hope that the US doesn't push China's interests in their own backyard.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    We've already seen, in Cuba in 1962, what one nuclear power did in a confrontation with another nuclear power that had roughly ten times as many weapons. The U.S. advantage over China in that department is more like twenty to one. Going up against six thousand hydrogen bombs is likely to cause second thoughts. And what's worse for the nation going up against them, many of those weapons are in missile submarines whose locations are unknown. That means they might be launched from only a hundred miles or so off the coast, reducing the time to react almost to nothing. As far as I've heard, China does not yet have subs like that. But the U.S. has quite a few of them, each one carrying as many as two dozen missiles loaded with maybe one hundred or more nuclear weapons.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    We need to keep China down before they get too powerful.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    China s extremely dependent on the US to keep it's citizens employed and happy. I doubt they would initiate an armed confrontation with the US but then again, now would be the time to do it.
    The underlined is exactly what went through my head when I read the article.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    We've already seen, in Cuba in 1962, what one nuclear power did in a confrontation with another nuclear power that had roughly ten times as many weapons. The U.S. advantage over China in that department is more like twenty to one. Going up against six thousand hydrogen bombs is likely to cause second thoughts. And what's worse for the nation going up against them, many of those weapons are in missile submarines whose locations are unknown. That means they might be launched from only a hundred miles or so off the coast, reducing the time to react almost to nothing. As far as I've heard, China does not yet have subs like that. But the U.S. has quite a few of them, each one carrying as many as two dozen missiles loaded with maybe one hundred or more nuclear weapons.
    I'd be worried once the first nuke went off, it'd pretty much be the end of things.

    IIRC, China kicked our butts during practice "War Games" not too long ago.

    Kinda scary.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    If China feels threatened, it could be because they have threatened others. Challenging others in international airspace or waters usually results in some push back. Maybe they should consider that, and STFU. If they want to resolve the issues surrounding the various islands peacefully, there are accepted ways to do just that, and they don't involve unilaterally constructing military bases on the very islands in dispute.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post
    I'd be worried once the first nuke went off, it'd pretty much be the end of things.

    IIRC, China kicked our butts during practice "War Games" not too long ago.

    Kinda scary.
    Of course the purpose of having a very strong force like the U.S. has is to make sure no other nation ever even thinks about sending one of the things our way. As someone who lived through the Cuban Crisis in October, 1962, nothing like that bothers me much. What's remarkable, in hindsight, is how determined most people were to stand behind President Kennedy in whatever he might need to do--and the Soviet leadership knew that. But that was in those hokey old days when it was hard to find Americans who weren't proud of the United States. If we faced something like that now, probably about a third of the country would be pulling for the enemy. Now, though, we would have President Pinprick at the helm--and we all know Kennedy had nothing on him when it comes to guts.

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