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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Another ridiculous statement. Just because my focus is on the failed policies, with an interest in improvement, doesn't mean I think that all USFP is a failure.
    I have never seen you post anything like that.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Lucky for us you're here to settle all that.
    We're just here for the debate Jack, we settle nothing. That's for China to do.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I have never seen you post anything like that.
    Which part?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the seems nearly hopeless.

    what funds the Chinese government?
    Command economy.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    The islands, islets, reefs, are in the Exclusive Economic Zone of the Philippines which is why the Phils in 2013 took the case to the UN Tribunal on the International Law of the Sea. The UN Tribunal however has heard only the Phils side of the case as Beijing won't show up to argue its case, nor is it ever going to appear before the Tribunal, despite Beijing signing the ILOS treaty. The UN Tribunal is going to have to rule against Beijing on this.

    The CCP Boyz in Beijing don't care what the UN or its ILOS Tribunal say or what anyone says or thinks, they're taking over the islands and the SCS no matter what. Or so the CCP Boyz think...


    Crucial sea lanes pass through the South China Sea, carrying a substantial portion of the world’s commerce. For U.S. leaders, that body of water is important both economically and strategically. As the world’s leading naval power and economic leader, the United States is not about to countenance an effort to convert the South China Sea into a de facto Chinese lake.


    An explicit assertion of American interest in the area came early in the Obama administration, highlighted by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s speech to a meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) in July 2010.

    Washington’s rhetorical involvement in the South China Sea issue coincided with the announcement of the strategic “pivot” or “rebalancing” of U.S. military forces to establish a stronger presence in East Asia



    https://counterinfor...outh-china-sea/

    There isn't going to be a war. It will be a low level intensity use of military resources. Already the Boyz in Beijing have unsuccessfully tried to take down Global Hawk drones operating over the islands and the construction areas. The Pentagon sent last week a new high tech littoral combat ship USS Fort Worth through the area which caused a commotion in Beijing and ignited a cat and mouse contest between the two Navies and Air Forces.

    This could look like the beginning of Cold War II.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There are many trading partners and China was going to become wealthy as soon as they freed up their economy, no matter what we did.
    So there are a **** load of Russian,Korean, British and other companies outsourcing to China?These trade deals happen to encourage companies to outsource, not because they were already outsourcing.

    The Economist predicted that thirty years ago.
    Most economists exist to suck the dicks of big business.As long as it favors big business they favor it.

    By establishing normal trade relations with China we enriched ourselves as well.
    Sure China is enriched and sure the companies that outsource are enriched.But the people who lost their jobs to outsourcing and have to take a lesser paying job are not enriched. Should China as a result of being enriched because of companies outsourcing to China become our enemy then we as a whole nation will not be enriched.

    And btw, economic development has indeed lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty.
    I am a patriotic American, not a cock sucking piece of **** globalist.So I do not want Chinese lifting themselves out of poverty at the expense of Americans.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Command economy.
    and what do the Chinese do to, you know, like, make money?

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    there's not going to be a war with China, because neither side would win.
    Actually, if a full-scale war were to break out between the US and China today, China would be comprehensively defeated because the US could very easily shut off all its imports and exports thereby completely crashing the Chinese economy.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Chinese military industry is not dependent on trade with the U.S.
    Thought I'd seen it all.

    Wow. Just wow.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    The islands, islets, reefs, are in the Exclusive Economic Zone of the Philippines which is why the Phils in 2013 took the case to the UN Tribunal on the International Law of the Sea. The UN Tribunal however has heard only the Phils side of the case as Beijing won't show up to argue its case, nor is it ever going to appear before the Tribunal, despite Beijing signing the ILOS treaty. The UN Tribunal is going to have to rule against Beijing on this.

    The CCP Boyz in Beijing don't care what the UN or its ILOS Tribunal say or what anyone says or thinks, they're taking over the islands and the SCS no matter what. Or so the CCP Boyz think...





    There isn't going to be a war. It will be a low level intensity use of military resources. Already the Boyz in Beijing have unsuccessfully tried to take down Global Hawk drones operating over the islands and the construction areas. The Pentagon sent last week a new high tech littoral combat ship USS Fort Worth through the area which caused a commotion in Beijing and ignited a cat and mouse contest between the two Navies and Air Forces.

    This could look like the beginning of Cold War II.
    Cold War II you say. Who'd a thunk it. Initiate some bellicose foreign policy comments and make ridiculous demands upon Russia and China and pretty soon we got the old Cold War Fear, like Drug War fear, and Terror War fear, and Fear for the sake of Military Industrial Corporate profits. There's gonna' be some money made here, don't ya' know? The Pentagon narrative will get top billing in the USA Media as if it's the God's honest truth. Noone will say that the Military Industrial Complex is pushing a new marketing agenda to create demand for more and bigger weapons, and they're gonna be very expensive. Hot dam, Mon, and we got new boogie man created for the Media stenographers. Be afraid, be very afraid, the boogie man gonna get ya'. Vote for Lindsey Graham and get lots more wars or war noises and more war contracts. Don't ya' just love Corporatism in the USA. "War is good business and a Cold War is big business."

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