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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    specifics, please. outline what the pissing contest looks like.
    As SecDef has already said, we will continue to sail and fly where we have a right to do so. The Chinese will have the opportunity to respect those rights.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

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    Vietnam has their own reclamation project and has built their own military infrastructure on the same islands in dispute!!



    China’s rapid claim on contested islands in the South China Sea is beyond anything seen previously and raises legitimate questions about Beijing’s intentions in the region, the secretary of the Australian defence department, Dennis Richardson, said.
    Richardson told a Senate estimates committee on Monday that the military buildup on China’s reclamation program in the South China Sea “dwarfs” what other nations in the region have done previously.
    “The land reclamation activity by China in the South China Sea has been at a pace and scale in the last two years beyond anything we have previously seen. It dwarfs what the other claimant states have done, and the size of the land reclamation does raise questions about its purpose,” Richardson said. . . .


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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    As SecDef has already said, we will continue to sail and fly where we have a right to do so. The Chinese will have the opportunity to respect those rights.
    one more chance. outline the course of the pissing contest as you see it playing out. one more vague attempt to dodge the question and i'm done responding to you in this thread. if you won't stop wasting my time with your dodging, then i will.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

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    one more chance. outline the course of the pissing contest as you see it playing out. one more vague attempt to dodge the question and i'm done responding to you in this thread. if you won't stop wasting my time with your dodging, then i will.
    I believe I have given you a full answer. The US has publicly indicated we will continue to exercise freedom of flight and maritime navigation as we have done throughout our history. Then question then will be whether China will respect those rights -- or not. If challenged, the US will respond with the level of force required to exercise our rights as laid down in international law. I think I saw that the USS Ronald Reagan battle group is en route to the area to exercise those rights. (Carrier battle groups have done this for decades.)

    I am indifferent to whether you respond. Your churlish behavior makes for an unattractive discussion.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I believe I have given you a full answer. The US has publicly indicated we will continue to exercise freedom of flight and maritime navigation as we have done throughout our history. Then question then will be whether China will respect those rights -- or not. If challenged, the US will respond with the level of force required to exercise our rights as laid down in international law. I think I saw that the USS Ronald Reagan battle group is en route to the area to exercise those rights. (Carrier battle groups have done this for decades.)

    I am indifferent to whether you respond. Your churlish behavior makes for an unattractive discussion.
    and then after we start moving warships into the region, what then? how much escalation do you support?

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

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    and then after we start moving warships into the region, what then? how much escalation do you support?
    That will depend on what the Chinese do. Generally we try to respond proportionately. Cutting to the chase, if the Chinese were to attack our vessels we would respond with the full weight of US military, naval and air power. Make no mistake, freedom of navigation is a vital core national interest which the US will defend with force.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    China May Set Up Air Defense Zone

    BEIJING — A Chinese admiral said Sunday that Beijing could set up an air defense zone above disputed areas of the South China Sea if it thought it was facing a large enough threat, according to Chinese news media.
    Adm. Sun Jianguo, deputy chief of staff of the People’s Liberation Army, speaking at a regional security forum in Singapore, said that China had not definitely said it would create a so-called air defense identification zone, but that any decision would be based on an aerial threat assessment and the maritime security situation. He also said other nations should not overemphasize the issue.
    The creation of an air defense zone would be viewed by the United States and Southeast Asian nations as a huge provocation. In recent years, foreign officials have speculated whether one of Beijing’s next moves in the South China Sea would be to set up such a zone, which would further solidify China’s military presence in the waters.
    In November 2013, to the dismay of Japan and the United States, China declared an air defense identification zone over disputed waters in the East China Sea. Chinese military aircraft began requiring all other aircraft flying through the zone to identify themselves, and commercial airliners complied, though the United States sent B-52 bombers through the zone without advance warning to challenge Beijing.
    In late May, Chinese officials told the United States to stop sending surveillance flights near land formations that China claims as its territory. American officials say the flights have been over international waters. . . . .


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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes we have, and now your lying, so take your own advice.
    Are you referring to your Fantasyland claims about Japan & Pearl Harbor? In that case don't bother. I thought you were trying to make a serious argument.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That will depend on what the Chinese do. Generally we try to respond proportionately. Cutting to the chase, if the Chinese were to attack our vessels we would respond with the full weight of US military, naval and air power. Make no mistake, freedom of navigation is a vital core national interest which the US will defend with force.
    not surprising that you would support escalating a pissing match over islands all of the way into an unwinnable war that would utterly destroy the US. hawks continue to amaze me sometimes. thanks for at least answering the question instead of dodging it with a one liner, though.

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