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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Like I said, I'd be doing the same thing China's doing, with one caveat, I'd tell America to defend its annexation of the Hawaiian islands to a board that I have veto power in.
    The case as it stands, China has very legal right to all of their claim. Is that what you are stating?
    What board are you referring to?
    The Philippines have taken their case to the Court of Arbitration in the Hague. If the courts rule in full or in part in favor of the Philippines claims, do you think China will recognize it?
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

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    Vietnamese are not a threat to shipping.
    Nor is China.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The case as it stands, China has very legal right to all of their claim. Is that what you are stating?
    What board are you referring to?
    The Philippines have taken their case to the Court of Arbitration in the Hague. If the courts rule in full or in part in favor of the Philippines claims, do you think China will recognize it?
    Yes.

    The UN.

    I see no legitimacy in the case even coming before The Hague due to China's solid historical claims and international recognition of their ownership that I presented you yesterday. If we're going to start requiring countries to burden the claims of others upon their borders going back in history, there's no end to what may transpire, and may not bode well for our own countries.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Ah. I see that you added the link. Article from around 1999? Problem is not China's participation in the atoll derby, but rather China's threats against freedom of navigation. That is unlike any of the other derby participants.
    zI'm just coming into this thread...
    my question: have there actually been any interferences of note?
    Or is it more in the potential realm so far?

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Nor is China.
    The Chinese are the ones who threaten aircraft in international air space.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    zI'm just coming into this thread...
    my question: have there actually been any interferences of note?
    Or is it more in the potential realm so far?
    Chinese threatened a US aircraft flying in international air space.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes.

    The UN.

    I see no legitimacy in the case even coming before The Hague due to China's solid historical claims and international recognition of their ownership that I presented you yesterday. If we're going to start requiring countries to burden the claims of others upon their borders going back in history, there's no end to what may transpire, and may not bode well for our own countries.
    The Philippines have that right, and the Hague has the final say.
    Both sides get to present their claims and supporting evidence.
    China has also used their claims to expand into other countries territorial waters.
    Do you consider that claim legitimate?
    An interesting link you may wish to check out
    South China Sea Dispute
    2 informative slide shows to see.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Range would depend on type of artillery, but several miles is likely. Enough to shut down a narrow shipping lane. Why not the Chinese Navy? Because the island can't be sunk.
    Jack you crack me up. I know that you know that is total BS. Have you even looked at the geography invloved here ?
    Last edited by flogger; 05-31-15 at 05:47 PM.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The Philippines have that right, and the Hague has the final say.
    Both sides get to present their claims and supporting evidence.
    China has also used their claims to expand into other countries territorial waters.
    Do you consider that claim legitimate?
    An interesting link you may wish to check out
    South China Sea Dispute
    2 informative slide shows to see.
    China's historic title, by land treaty as well as the international acknowledgements of their title to the Spratly's is sufficient for me. I don't think that The Hague should even hear this case, and I think that China should tell them to kiss off. I can't speak to your other claims, my focus presently is on the Spratleys/Paracel's, and China's legitimate title of them.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Jack you crack me up. I know that you know that is total BS. Have you even looked at the geography invloved here ?

    1. Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative | Atlas

      amti.csis.org/atlas/


    2. Over half of the world's commercial shipping passes through the waterways of ... The Strait of Malacca, in particular, is one of the most important shipping lanes in ... The South China Sea contains significant proved and probable oil reserves, ...



    3. South China Sea Shipping Lanes - GlobalSecurity.org

      www.globalsecurity.org Military World War Spratly Islands



      Nov 7, 2011 - South China Sea Oil Shipping Lanes. More than half of the world's annual merchant fleet tonnage passes through the Straits of Malacca, Sunda ...


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