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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Excuse me but the US isn't a party to this dispute! There are six nations with overlapping claims to these islands, none of them are the US. Brush up on the Spratly history before posting.
    US interest is in freedom of navigation in recognized international waters.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Excuse me but the US isn't a party to this dispute! There are six nations with overlapping claims to these islands, none of them are the US. Brush up on the Spratly history before posting.
    The marketing campaigns of the Military Industrial Complex need wars to feed them. Cold Wars. Terror Wars. Race Wars. Police Wars. Use the media as stenographers to generate a fearful narrative and demand new better, bigger, more powerful weapons and weapons programs.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    US interest is in freedom of navigation in recognized international waters.
    Would you stop it with your bull**** rhetoric. China isn't threatening merchant ship travel in the shipping lanes in the straight.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Ah. I see that you added the link. Article from around 1999? Problem is not China's participation in the atoll derby, but rather China's threats against freedom of navigation. That is unlike any of the other derby participants.
    Oh, 1999. In this instance, the older the better. China has the strongest proof of title of any of the claimants. And the Us doesn't have a dog in this race, beyond it's typical intrusion and interference in regional issues that they have no business in.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

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    Those hokey days when information was far harder to come by. The third you refer to just aren't buying everything anymore.
    The third I refer to are whiny, loutish malcontents--pajama boys with grasping hands, and no guts.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post
    There is that, too.

    Given the current international climate, I wonder how many other nations might hypothetically "side" with China?

    Russia in the mix would not be good...

    ("President Pinprick" is a new one for me.)

    I'll have to remember that one.
    Even though this president's weakness continues to make the world more unstable, I wouldn't worry about any alliance forming between Russia and China. What is much more dangerous is letting ISIS survive. I am sure they are determined to strike us here and kill as many people as possible, and they have at least as good a safe haven and even more resources than Al Qaeda had when it planned the 9/11 attacks.

    The safest way to deal with a fascist cur like Putin is to elect a president who believes in an well-calculated, assertive foreign policy backed by a strong military, and who has the character and will to use force when necessary to protect the interests of the United States. In other words, the very opposite of an America-resenting weak sister like Barack Obama, who does not inspire caution or respect in any of our adversaries.

    I thought the term Pinprick sort of fit B. Hussein's military strategy against ISIS--among other things. I also call him President Pinocchio, because he is a G--damned liar.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Even though this president's weakness continues to make the world more unstable, I wouldn't worry about any alliance forming between Russia and China. What is much more dangerous is letting ISIS survive. I am sure they are determined to strike us here and kill as many people as possible, and they have at least as good a safe haven and even more resources than Al Qaeda had when it planned the 9/11 attacks.

    The safest way to deal with a fascist cur like Putin is to elect a president who believes in an well-calculated, assertive foreign policy backed by a strong military, and who has the character and will to use force when necessary to protect the interests of the United States. In other words, the very opposite of an America-resenting weak sister like Barack Obama, who does not inspire caution or respect in any of our adversaries.

    I thought the term Pinprick sort of fit B. Hussein's military strategy against ISIS--among other things. I also call him President Pinocchio, because he is a G--damned liar.
    Sorry, but America is moving AWAY from interfering foreign policy. Wait and see! The present uni-polar world status is waning. But don't fear, a balance of power is preferable.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Excuse me but the US isn't a party to this dispute! There are six nations with overlapping claims to these islands, none of them are the US. Brush up on the Spratly history before posting.
    All nations are to enjoy freedom of navigation. The U. S. is among the group of all nations, and we trade with the nations in that area of the globe. Understanding these things is fundamental.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Would you stop it with your bull**** rhetoric. China isn't threatening merchant ship travel in the shipping lanes in the straight.
    China is not threatening it at present and China may never threaten it. However, if China were able to gain a position where it could militarily dominate the South China Sea, it would have a capacity to shut down shipping in those waters. The optimal approach would be a settlement of the historic disputes or at least development of a framework for managing differences among the countries even as the territorial disputes persist.

    As has been the case with rising powers in the past, China is almost certainly going to seek to translate its large and growing economic clout into military power. That need not mean inevitable conflict. How China, its neighbors, and the world's other major powers manage their differences will be important in avoiding the risk of conflict.

    In the end, China understands the importance of hard power. That its past period of weakness was exploited, especially during the 19th and early 20th centuries, has further strengthened the importance it places on hard power. Power remains the principle guarantee of security, even in the 21st century. Given today's emphasis on technology, one can reasonably expect that China will seek to develop strong military capabilities in all the possible military forums: land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh, 1999. In this instance, the older the better. China has the strongest proof of title of any of the claimants. And the Us doesn't have a dog in this race, beyond it's typical intrusion and interference in regional issues that they have no business in.
    We have treaty obligations with Japan and the Philippines. Perhaps China should settle the dispute with the other claimants before declaring an economic exclusion zone and building a military base on disputed territory.

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