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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    But they did. And their earliest title dates to 1887 when they won the uninhabited islands in a war with France. In 1907, they also placed flags and markers on the islands. After the conclusion of WW11, the Japanese were forced to return the archipelago to China in 1947, which they had seized from them in 1939. I've only pointed these facts out numerous times now.
    1947 is beyond the 40 years Monte.....oh and that still doesn't give them an out going back those 40 years. Do pay attention to the whole statement and not just parts or one word to play off. As that leftist tactic wont work with me.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

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    1947 is beyond the 40 years Monte.....oh and that still doesn't give them an out going back those 40 years. Do pay attention to the whole statement and not just parts or one word to play off. As that leftist tactic wont work with me.
    I don't give a **** about your forty year claim, they've had legitimate claims for at least 150 years. My position doesn't follow a right or left ideology, it follows precedence. The same precedence that the US used when wresting control of the Philippines from Spain in the Spanish American war.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I agree. Four years after the end of WWII, the U.S. had about 200 atom bombs and no one else had even one yet. No nation in history had ever had that much military superiority over the rest of the world. As you say, that means the U.S. during that period could have dictated terms to every other nation in the world, if it really had been anything like the evil, imperialist aggressor commie America-haters are so fond of claiming it is.

    What you may be failing to consider is what millions of people in this country--the really cool, righteous, evolved people--have learned through several decades of politically correct indoctrination--I mean education--in our wonderful public schools. And that is that all non-whites in the world are beautiful souls who are wise, peace-loving, and in harmony with the planet. America, in contrast, led by white Christian men, shows all the corruption that comes with greedy capitalist "civilization." This country is the source and font of all the world's evil, filled with resource-guzzling yahoos who rampage and exploit and pollute all over the world, invading, ravaging, and murdering innocent non-white men, women, and children just because they breathe.

    I'm glad to see we finally have a president who's hip enough to know it's high time we arrogant American cowboys were humbled before the world. 9/11, which we obviously had coming, was a start. We provoked those poor Muslims with our aggression, until finally they could not take any more and taught us a lesson. And Mr. Obama, with his unique sensitivity to non-white foreigners, has done his best to cut us down a couple more pegs still. But there's much more to be done--Americans have to rid themselves of this hokey, Ozzie-and-Harriet-era pride in this country, once and for all.
    Acting to establish a claim by force undercuts the possible validity of the claim. China has drawn a contorted and tortured map in an attempt to establish that claim as well. Note that the map China offers also includes Taiwan. I wonder if Taiwan should approach the UN and claim China as theirs.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't give a **** about your forty year claim, they've had legitimate claims for at least 150 years. My position doesn't follow a right or left ideology, it follows precedence. The same precedence that the US used when wresting control of the Philippines from Spain in the Spanish American war.

    I see what you haven't figure out yet, is that History. Its not my claim.....try turning on the news, Radio or TV. They have been talking about it all morning.

    That's Right.....your position doesn't. It follows nothing but Anti American BS. While running around and whining and crying that everything on the earth is the fault of the US.

    Which is why YOU couldn't come up with answer for China and its lameass excuses for creating animosity with its neighbors. Basically because the Chinese aren't standing on any Righteous ground. As well as not getting the answers from your Arab mentors.

    There is no defense nor excuse for their actions. NONE Monte. Absolutely none!!!!!

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I see what you haven't figure out yet, is that History. Its not my claim.....try turning on the news, Radio or TV. They have been talking about it all morning.

    That's Right.....your position doesn't. It follows nothing but Anti American BS. While running around and whining and crying that everything on the earth is the fault of the US.

    Which is why YOU couldn't come up with answer for China and its lameass excuses for creating animosity with its neighbors. Basically because the Chinese aren't standing on any Righteous ground. As well as not getting the answers from your Arab mentors.

    There is no defense nor excuse for their actions. NONE Monte. Absolutely none!!!!!
    You haven't a clue about the history of the Spratlys, nor any understanding of what overlapping claims mean, as such your a waste of time, take the last word and then go play games with someone else, hear?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Acting to establish a claim by force undercuts the possible validity of the claim. China has drawn a contorted and tortured map in an attempt to establish that claim as well. Note that the map China offers also includes Taiwan. I wonder if Taiwan should approach the UN and claim China as theirs.
    Taiwan claims all the islands in the Spratly archipelago, too!! Where's that leave Vietnam, the Philippines, and others??
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You haven't a clue about the history of the Spratlys, nor any understanding of what overlapping claims mean, as such your a waste of time, take the last word and then go play games with someone else, hear?
    Yo Monte save all that BS. You are becoming the Joke of the neighborhood. It was you that said you didn't care about that History. Got that now. Those were your words. Not mine!

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

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    Acting to establish a claim by force undercuts the possible validity of the claim. China has drawn a contorted and tortured map in an attempt to establish that claim as well. Note that the map China offers also includes Taiwan. I wonder if Taiwan should approach the UN and claim China as theirs.
    Mornin HB. Yeah and South Korea too. Imagine that.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Taiwan claims all the islands in the Spratly archipelago, too!! Where's that leave Vietnam, the Philippines, and others??
    The more the merrier, I suppose. A couple of typhoons or a seismic event might make the Chinese reconsider the utility of their effort. Hopefully the whole flap will be settled in an amicable manner, but given the number of claims, there's bound to be some long faces somewhere. Meanwhile, the poor fishermen from the surrounding areas will be left in the lurch. China appears to be installing some radars, and since they don't appear to be constructing a tourist destination, one can reasonably expect that the complimentary "things that go boom" elements will follow.

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin HB. Yeah and South Korea too. Imagine that.
    I expect that every nation in the area will want to at this point as a counterweight to China. If you had even one individual who was documented to have shipwrecked on one of those reefs, you'll want to make a claim.

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