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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Why do they not take it to the UN??????
    There are settlement mechanisms in the Laws of the Seas Convention.
    United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Why, because a substantial portion of their claims are groundless.
    What portions of any of the others are grounded?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Again, your claim is bull**** until you can get something.

    I don't care about "anyone remotely familiar" because until someone extremely reputable here concurs with your statement (Oozlefinch), it's false.
    I don't care to get in the middle of your exchange but the problem she cites is real.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You really need to know more before you post so assertively.

    China’s dangerous provocation demands a response from the U.S.

    Editorial Board MAY 26
    The United States must hold firm against the Asian giant’s buildup in the Spratly Islands.

    "THE UNITED States last week stepped up its efforts to call attention to China’s massive and provocative expansion of infrastructure in a disputed portion of the South China Sea. The Navy invited CNN aboard a surveillance flight and released video the next day of what one U.S. official called an attempt “to make sovereign land out of sand castles” in the Spratly Islands. The flight by a P-8A Poseidon aircraft drew eight warnings from the Chinese navy and an angry denunciation by the Chinese Foreign Ministry, which called it “very irresponsible and also very dangerous.” But the U.S. action was legal and appropriate. . . .

    "Other nations have reclaimed land and built installations in the Spratlys. But China’s operation stands out for its scale and speed and for the brazenness with which the regime of Xi Jinping advances questionable territorial claims while rejecting international mediation or a negotiated code of conduct. Relying on a slapdash map dating to the 1940s, which consists of nine dashes across the waters east of China, Beijing claims 80 percent of the South China Sea, which is crisscrossed by international shipping lanes. It seeks to exclude foreign ships and planes from a 200-mile zone around its claimed territory, rather than the 12 miles recognized by the United States. . . . "
    Yes, China's the provocateur as the US, 7,000 miles away from home flys surveillance above Chinese operations in the China sea.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The Philippines knows that. They will not initiate hostilities.
    It will be China that goes that route.
    The present Poobah has been quite keen on playing to China's nationalists. Note the incursion the other year into Indian territory, set up camp and stayed for a tad. No innocent error in border crossing.
    Once that comes into play, like any battle plan, only lasts till first contact, then it takes on a way of its own.
    Then they are cornered into a Military response.
    To the bolded. And you know that how???
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, China's the provocateur as the US, 7,000 miles away from home flys surveillance above Chinese operations in the China sea.
    The US is merely exercising freedom of navigation.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Apparently you weren't aware of what BO and his Team had to say.....that made a point clear. Once China tried to invoke an Air Defense Zone over International Waters. When its allies and friends asked for some assurance.

    That which China did all with their own little actions. Like they did attacking little civilian fishing boats. Which you seems to give them a pass on. Now that's just sick killing unarmed civilians with no way to fight back. Do you enjoy it that much that all you can come up with is.....its the US who is at fault?






    Hagel: China territorial claims destabilize region.....

    SINGAPORE (AP) — Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel warned an international security conference Saturday that the U.S. "will not look the other way" when nations such as China try to restrict navigation or ignore international rules and standards. China's territorial claims in the South China Sea are destabilizing the region, and its failure to resolve disputes with other nations threatens East Asia's long-term progress, Hagel said.

    Lt. Gen. Wang Guanzhong, deputy chief of the General Staff, told Hagel, "You were very candid this morning and, to be frank, more than our expectation." He added, "although I do think that those criticisms are groundless, I do appreciate your candor."

    Reporters had to leave the room before Hagel responded. But Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby said Hagel told Wang that all regional disputes should be solved through diplomacy, and he encouraged China to foster dialogue with neighboring nations......snip~

    Hagel: China territorial claims destabilize region
    I really don't care what Obama and Hagel have to say about a dispute amongst six countries in Asia. Btw, you do realise that there are six countries with overlapping claims. Meaning that this isn't China against five others, but that the others have disputes amongst themselves. Just so you'll know, Taiwan claims ALL of the Spratlys. Where's that leave Taiwan with Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, etc.?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The US is merely exercising freedom of navigation.
    Agreed, I'm not suggesting that they can't be there. I'm just saying that the US was the provocateur. As someone already pointed out, knowing that they were going to poke a stick in this, they invited CNN to tag along.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Agreed, I'm not suggesting that they can't be there. I'm just saying that the US was the provocateur.
    And in that you are wrong. The US flew in international airspace. China reacted belligerently.
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I don't care to get in the middle of your exchange but the problem she cites is real.
    I'll believe it when I see it.

    No source = no credence
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    Re: Beijing warns US: 'We will fight back' as battle of words escalates over South Ch

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    I'll believe it when I see it.

    No source = no credence
    As you wish.
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