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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Uhh, what? Qualifying it? Why wouldn't I? This is a specific dude, am I supposed to comment on someone else's Twitter account? Jay-Z, maybe?
    Your statement started off as a general condemnation of what was said and ended up justifying in because of who Johnson was. Which is it? Should everyone that issues the term "take out" be banned from Twitter, or just the people Twitter doesn't like?
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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Your statement started off as a general condemnation of what was said and ended up justifying in because of who Johnson was. Which is it? Should everyone that issues the term "take out" be banned from Twitter, or just the people Twitter doesn't like?
    No, they shouldn't permanently ban everyone that says "take out" someone. They should use their common sense and professional judgment, and weigh the tweet itself, and in context with the person's history, and then make a decision considering all the facts whether it's in the best interest of the other millions of Twitter users and the company to ban, or suspend, or warn, or ignore, the tweet and the user. In this case, considering his long history as a professional offensive troll, it should have been a very easy decision - bring out the ban hammer.

    Besides, even if you assume, fairly enough, Johnson was NOT issuing an actual threat to kill someone, what he clearly WAS doing was trying use Twitter to raise money to fund a harassment campaign against another Twitter user. I'm perfectly fine with banning this idiot for that.

    His tweet:

    "Go to [idiot's web site] if you want to give money to taking out @Deray [McKesson]"
    They're not in business to provide a platform for trolls to raise money to harass other Twitter users, on Twitter. IMO, they'd be idiots to allow that nonsense on their platform. It turns off other users to their service. Same reason the mods here wouldn't put up with that BS, and rightly so.
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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Your statement started off as a general condemnation of what was said and ended up justifying in because of who Johnson was. Which is it? Should everyone that issues the term "take out" be banned from Twitter, or just the people Twitter doesn't like?
    That's a pretty ridiculous interpretation. Try to read posts as a whole rather than a series of isolated sentences with no connection to each other.

    I didn't justify it "because of who he is." He did a thing. A dip**** thing and twitter has no reason to coddle a dip****. Do you see? It's the other way around. Twitter should boot him because he did a dip**** thing. He's a dip**** because he does dip**** things.

    I hope your confusion is now settled and we can end the derail.
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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That's a pretty ridiculous interpretation. Try to read posts as a whole rather than a series of isolated sentences with no connection to each other.

    I didn't justify it "because of who he is." He did a thing. A dip**** thing and twitter has no reason to coddle a dip****. Do you see? It's the other way around. Twitter should boot him because he did a dip**** thing. He's a dip**** because he does dip**** things.

    I hope your confusion is now settled and we can end the derail.
    No, I think your confusion just grows. You are still doing it.

    Should twitter suspend anyone who writes a post using that terminology?
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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post


    And your opinion is??????
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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    He'll probably find some other outlet other than Twitter and just continue.
    Out with Travis and in with this guy!

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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Took a long time, but he is finally banned from Twitter, 7 different names.
    That, alone, is a non-controversial violation of Twitter's rules, which state:

    You may not create multiple accounts for disruptive or abusive purposes, or with overlapping use cases. Mass account creation may result in suspension of all related accounts. Please note that any violation of the Twitter Rules is cause for permanent suspension of all accounts.

    And another rule concerning abuse:

    You may not engage in targeted abuse or harassment. Some of the factors that we take into account when determining what conduct is considered to be targeted abuse or harassment are:
    • if you are sending messages to a user from multiple accounts;
    • if the sole purpose of your account is to send abusive messages to others


    https://support.twitter.com/articles...twitter-rules#

    In short, the individual was a serial violator of Twitter's rules. He was banned for such violations. This has nothing whatsoever to do with free speech (and, of course, Twitter is part of the private sector, which allows it to establish its own terms of use for its products/services).

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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Just how far does the management of Twitter take this procedure? It is a very difficult, narrow management line to walk!

    Should they ban any and all who make controversial statements?

    I suspect the result would be a very boring echo-chamber site, with no debate, and little participation.

    I don't know anything at all about the person banned. Perhaps he did exceed the bounds of civil discourse and productive debate.

    But we've all seen Group-Think and Political Correctness, by a mob of hive-minded Lefties, a small post at a time, on a thousand forum threads, also exceed the bounds of civil discourse, and stifle all productive debate.

    Why is ONE outspoken zealot banned, but the debate stifling trollet mob members not? Just because they do their evil from a wide spread array of accounts and people? It is still all just the same Political Correctness voice.

    There is no rule as cruel and unjust as mob-rule.

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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No, I think your confusion just grows. You are still doing it.

    Should twitter suspend anyone who writes a post using that terminology?
    No, I think Twitter should ban anyone who appears to be making threats.
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    Re: Charles Johnson, one of the Internetís most infamous trolls, has finally been ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, I think Twitter should ban anyone who appears to be making threats.
    So you don't think people necessarily are really threatening others if they say that?
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