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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Come on, show me how stupid I am.
    Okay.

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    Afghanistan gets four times as much aid from us as Israel does.

    United States foreign aid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    I think we should cut them off too. Oh, and Palestine as well.

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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Okay.
    So the only place where you're criticizing the aid to Afghanistan is in threads you open... criticizing Israel.
    Funny, you don't think you're kinda proving my point here? Either that or it's a huge coincidence you will agree.
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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Conservatives fight against tax money going towards helping impoverished people in their own country and then turn around and support sending billions to Israel. Being rich or poor is a choice according to conservative logic, right? If they want more money they should earn it themselves. Giving them welfare will just create dependency, right?
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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    So the only place where you're criticizing the aid to Afghanistan is in threads you open... criticizing Israel.
    Funny, you don't think you're kinda proving my point here? Either that or it's a huge coincidence you will agree.
    No, I actually think I trashed your point entirely. That thread demonstrates that I don't agree with sending aid to other countries either.

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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    No, I actually think I trashed your point entirely. That thread demonstrates that I don't agree with sending aid to other countries either. You told me to show you how stupid you are by finding one post where I criticized aid being sent to other countries. Done and done.
    The point I was making, as you're obviously so aware of it that you've seen it coming before I've actually made it, which says a lot on its own, is that you take more issue with aid to Israel than to other countries even though Afghanistan as one example gets a billion US dollars more every year in aid than Israel does.

    The fact that the only other thread than this thread where you've criticized the aid to Afghanistan is another thread you've opened to bash Israel, where again you only said it in response to someone who confronted you about it (this time Kobie), does prove my point. It absolutely does.
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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    As much as I support Israel I am strongly of the opinion that we should not be giving money to ANY other nation until we fix our own problems. We do not have the luxury to give out free money when our economy is in shambles, our national debt sky high, and our nation facing some very tough times. Fix America before you presume to fix any other place.


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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The point I was making, as you're obviously so aware of it that you've seen it coming before I've actually made it, which says a lot on its own
    Yeah, it says how entirely predicable your arguments are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    is that you take more issue with aid to Israel than to other countries even though Afghanistan as one example gets a billion US dollars more every year in aid than Israel does.
    No, I do not take more issue with aid being sent to Israel. That's an incorrect assumption and I have already demonstrated that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The fact that the only other thread than this thread where you've criticized the aid to Afghanistan is another thread you've opened to bash Israel, where again you only said it in response to someone who confronted you about it (this time Kobie), does prove my point. It absolutely does.
    No, it really doesn't. There is absolutely no basis from which you can reasonably assume that one bothers me more than the other. Are you seriously trying to tell me how I feel about it? You're wrong because I am telling you how I feel about it. You know, because I'm me and you're not. My post in the other thread adequately shows that it all bothers me.

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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Should we give Israel more aid?
    We need to cut all aid to Isreal, like right now.

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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You do realize that Israel isn't the only nation in the world to receive US foreign aid, right? It isn't even the largest recipient, Afghanistan is.
    Afghanistan is a war torn country that we are still heavily involved in, and that has a per-capita GDP of $664. In contrast, Israel is a developed nation with a per-capita GDP of $36,000. So why does Israel need US taxpayer money?
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    re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Should we give Israel more aid?

    Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package | Jewish Telegraphic Agency

    Israel reportedly wants the U.S. to increase its annual defense assistance package by half, to an average $4.5 billion. Defense News reported this weekend that Israel and U.S. officials have in recent months begun negotiations on the next 10-year aid package. The previous package, negotiated by the George W. Bush and Ehud Olmert governments in 2007, averaged $3 billion of assistance each year, for a total of $30 billion, from 2007-2017. The government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wants that to increase to $42-45 billion over the 2018-2028 period, Defense News reported, adding that President Barack Obama during his March 2013 visit to Israel “endorsed in principle” that range.

    Defense News quotes “U.S. and Israeli experts” as saying that the amount would be separate from any package the United States offered Israel as compensation for the Iran nuclear deal now being negotiated between Iran and the major powers. Like the defense assistance package currently in place, it is also separate from the $1.2 billion in materiel the United States stores in Israel and which under certain conditions is available for Israeli use, and from the approximately $500 million in U.S. funds provided to Israeli anti-missile development each year.
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