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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Looks like the Israeli tail is trying to wag the American dog again.

    Amazing, since the Cold War ended, America's alliance with Israel has brought nothing but deaths, hardship and economic expense for America. The alliance offers virtually nothing positive to America and everything to Israel...and still American Neocons are dumb enough to embrace it.

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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by MVictorP View Post
    Palestine? Give me a break. The Palestinians have been disarmed since the British mandate.
    That's interesting. If they are unarmed, I wonder where all those rockets, mortars, and small arms fire are coming from.

    Hizbollah, now that's a minimally armed group.
    Hezbollah has tends of thousands of rockets, artillery, anti-aircraft weapons, anti-tank weapons, and drones. They brag about their weapons, they make museum displays of extra weaponry that they have on hand. There are nation states with weaker militaries. At this point, Israel is just trying to keep them from getting the more advanced missiles.

    And indeed they were a much less easy target for those poor Israelis, that have been busy "waging war" on people armed with sticks and stones up until that time
    Funny how some of those sticks and stones have an effective engagement radius of several kilometers and carry high explosive payloads, huh?

    sticks and stones. That's about as dumb as "minimally armed". Ironically, the only time Palestinians ever won was when they chose to fight with stones rather than actual weapons.

    Israelis used to wage war against real armies like Egypt's in the past
    And aren't we glad they don't have to any more.

    but for a couple of decades now, they fight against beggars and vagrants
    Well they tried giving them land for peace, but that didn't work. so when someone insists on attacking you, you fight back.

    What interests would Israel have in not preventing an ally from a possible attack?
    Actually it was the Illuminati and the Masons. But don't tell anyone I told you that, or they'll get their allies in the Catholic church (secretly controlled by Jewish bankers) to take me out.

    Again, if you want to spout conspiracy nonsense, take it to the conspiracy forum.

    Heck, it is your ally and they didn't even prevented you about 9-11...
    Yah, but you know what? Neither did Canada...... those bastards.....

    Clearly we should divest ourselves from Canada until they apologize and find a way to make up for not even prevented us about 9-11. Some ally they turned out to be, huh?

    Some allies you have there. Now leave your computer for a while and go earn some more money, so that your govt can give part of it to Israel. You don't want to be accused of antisemitism, do you? Come on, work that arse off for the eternal martyrs, my goy friend.
    Again, take the conspiracy foolishness to the proper forum.

    But please do continue as much as possible to drop the anti-semitism hints. It helps the mods get rid of the riff-raff that much quicker.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by MVictorP View Post
    More the dancing Mossad agents and their antics. "Debunk" articles about them were not convincing for me. And more.

    No matter how happy they were, I have been told that your govt was even happier still.

    I've got to give it to you; You really ****ed those Yanks in the ass, didn't you? You have them eating directly from your hand. Congrats.
    Don't forget that all the Jews were warned not to go to work that day, and that they make matza out of innocent gentile children.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by MVictorP View Post
    Please explain "New Testament", then

    The Bible is a work of man. Emperor Constantine himself decided which book would be included in the population-control bible he was putting on. And one of his bigest mistake was to mix up the Old and the New. The god in the NT proposes presenting the other cheek, while the one in the OT fixes the prices you can get while selling your daughter. C'mon, bud.
    So what your saying is that God is anti-free market?
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    More like firework attack from what I've seen
    Then you see poorly, and I invite you to allow a Katyusha rocket detonate in your living room. A firework would at most give you a severe headache and temporarily deafen you.

    A Katyusha will wipe out your family.

    However, the purpose of weapons testing is less the charge on the warhead, and more intercepting the threat in-flight. At which the Israelis are making us increasingly better.

    Really who ?
    Do countries named "Syria" and "Egypt" ring a bell?

    What Islamist attacks on Americas regional interests had there been before 1967 then ?
    Prior to 1967 there hadn't really been any campaign of Islamist attacks. The Zeitgeist of the moment in the Sunni Arab world was Pan-Arab nationalism mixed with military-centric socialism (the Nasserite movement) However, Sunni Islamism and violent Jihad was thoroughly developing as a belief-system, especially in Egypt, where the Muslim brotherhood gave birth to Gamat al Islamiya, Egyptian Islamic Jihad, et al.

    And has destabilised the region for decades
    On the contrary. Prior to the 1970s, there was a major war every decade between Israel and her neighbors. Afterwards, there have been some limited campaigns against non-state networks, and zero wars against her neighbors. Objectively they have helped to stabilize the region.

    As long as this strategic imbalance remains these states will want such weapons
    On the contrary - to the extent to which the Arab states (exception of ISIL) want nuclear weapons, they do so because of the Iranian program. Saudi Arabia see's Iran as a far more dangerous enemy than Israel.

    All pretty unlikely given the US was licking its wounds after its Vietnam debacle. Any president suggesting another foreign entanglement immediately afterwards would not have remained in office too long
    Any President doing so in Southeast Asia certainly would have been, but we did, in fact, intervene in 1973, and we did so with both a major airlift of resupplies and with troops. We even put our nuclear forces on alert. And that was just to stave off a defeat in the Sinai - had the question instead been what-do-we-do-to-prevent-a-second-holocaust, our deployment of force would have been much higher.

    On the contrary I think the region would be pretty much at peace now with relatively affluent societies much like the UAE or Bahrain or like the Lebanon was before the mid 70s. There may be the odd Hussein style despot but we would see nothing like the regional instability we currently do.
    Oh. Well that's a nice pipe dream. The UAE and Bahrain are affluent because of massive oil wealth per capita, and I'm not sure what your "pretty much at peace" standard means, given that Bahrain is still dealing with a massive, ongoing arab-spring style movement (and had to call in Saudi Tanks to help at one point) among it's Shia populace, and the UAE is currently involved in combat operations on two continents.

    Regardless, if your recipe for "peace" is "first, wipe out an entire people", then no thanks. I'd rather mow the grass.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    So what your saying is that God is anti-free market?
    That deserves a

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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Should we give Israel more aid?

    Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package | Jewish Telegraphic Agency

    Israel reportedly wants the U.S. to increase its annual defense assistance package by half, to an average $4.5 billion. Defense News reported this weekend that Israel and U.S. officials have in recent months begun negotiations on the next 10-year aid package. The previous package, negotiated by the George W. Bush and Ehud Olmert governments in 2007, averaged $3 billion of assistance each year, for a total of $30 billion, from 2007-2017. The government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wants that to increase to $42-45 billion over the 2018-2028 period, Defense News reported, adding that President Barack Obama during his March 2013 visit to Israel “endorsed in principle” that range.

    Defense News quotes “U.S. and Israeli experts” as saying that the amount would be separate from any package the United States offered Israel as compensation for the Iran nuclear deal now being negotiated between Iran and the major powers. Like the defense assistance package currently in place, it is also separate from the $1.2 billion in materiel the United States stores in Israel and which under certain conditions is available for Israeli use, and from the approximately $500 million in U.S. funds provided to Israeli anti-missile development each year.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's interesting. If they are unarmed, I wonder where all those rockets, mortars, and small arms fire are coming from.
    Canisters and potassium payloads. That's what you call "armed"? As long as there is a stone in the GS that could be hurled towards a IDF tank, you will pretend that the Palestinians are a serious military menace. Ridicule doesn't kill.

    Hezbollah has tends of thousands of rockets, artillery, anti-aircraft weapons, anti-tank weapons, and drones. They brag about their weapons, they make museum displays of extra weaponry that they have on hand. There are nation states with weaker militaries. At this point, Israel is just trying to keep them from getting the more advanced missiles.
    And yet, when they face Israel it's David vs Goliath - only this time, David is the Philistine.

    Funny how some of those sticks and stones have an effective engagement radius of several kilometers and carry high explosive payloads, huh?
    Fireworks, too. And these potassium payload are ridiculous. In fact, the Quassam can be best described as a psychological weapon. Once again; How many Israelis were killed by these things? I'll bet you that the casualties from falling in the shower are worse. And even if they killed.....

    Well they tried giving them land for peace, but that didn't work. so when someone insists on attacking you, you fight back.
    ... Exactly.

    This "land for peace" scam isn't supposed to be accepted by the Palestinians; If it would, Israel would be most pissed, as it wouldn't be able to illegally seize land in the WB like they do as we speak: What would happen then, would be something like "operation Righteous Retribution" will get started as soon as a Palestinian looks at a Jew sideways. Good thing too, because the "97%" Palestinian land would be crissed-crossed by a 3% of zionist hilltop forteresses, Jews-only highway, security barriers and walls that would make Pal land an un-governable ghetto.

    sticks and stones. That's about as dumb as "minimally armed". Ironically, the only time Palestinians ever won was when they chose to fight with stones rather than actual weapons.
    Did they had a choice?

    Actually it was the Illuminati and the Masons. But don't tell anyone I told you that, or they'll get their allies in the Catholic church (secretly controlled by Jewish bankers) to take me out.

    Again, if you want to spout conspiracy nonsense, take it to the conspiracy forum.
    Conspiracies, that is, two people or more consorting behind closed doors for their own benefits? Impossible! People just doesn't do that. Poeple are nice and honest.

    Yah, but you know what? Neither did Canada...... those bastards.....

    Clearly we should divest ourselves from Canada until they apologize and find a way to make up for not even prevented us about 9-11. Some ally they turned out to be, huh?
    Did Canada had secret agents filming the whole thing then dancing with joy?

    Again, take the conspiracy foolishness to the proper forum.
    What, this one's reserved for ordinary foolishness?

    But please do continue as much as possible to drop the anti-semitism hints. It helps the mods get rid of the riff-raff that much quicker.
    Why would mods get rid of the antisemites? Show me some rules, bud.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Don't forget that all the Jews were warned not to go to work that day, and that they make matza out of innocent gentile children.
    I think you forgot the argumentation part in there, obviously because you were confused by your own comical wits.

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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Here's a great idea we fix American issues first then we can continue being the world's piggy bank .
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