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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Please cite where this is in error then ? You've already been given a considerable list to choose from
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by MVictorP View Post
    Nah - better to shoot the messenger.
    This comment would have worked better had I not responded several minutes earlier with an answer to his question, y'know.

    It's all about the timing.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

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    The claim that Israel sold the Lavi aircraft (an indigenous Israeli technology by the way) and the Patriot missiles technologies to China is a baseless one.
    So Israel developed US style stealth technologies all on its own to sell to them then ?

    And regardless of the above when it comes to sites like globalresearch and WRMEA and other well-known conspiracy theory sites I tend to just ignore them.
    I suppose dismissing them out of hand is easier than addressing what they are saying

    In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, The Associated Press reported in 2002.

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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    So Israel developed US style stealth technologies all on its own to sell to them then ?
    How did you manage to understand that?
    Israel did not sell the Lavi aircraft technology, which isn't 'US style', by the way, but an Israeli indigenous technology, to the Chinese. That is a false, basless assertion, just like the claim it sold the Patriot missiles technology to China, as the Wiki article I've linked to shows.

    In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, The Associated Press reported in 2002.
    As I stated in an earlier post in this thread there was only one instance when Israel had wronged the US over its trade with China, and it had apologized for it and the individual responsible had resigned from office. You still failed to take note of my own notation earlier that this incident is completely irrelevant when one is concerning himself with an analysis of the entire Israeli-American relationship.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    How did you manage to understand that?
    Israel did not sell the Lavi aircraft technology, which isn't 'US style', by the way, but an Israeli indigenous technology, to the Chinese. That is a false, basless assertion, just like the claim it sold the Patriot missiles technology to China, as the Wiki article I've linked to shows.



    As I stated in an earlier post in this thread there was only one instance when Israel had wronged the US over its trade with China, and it had apologized for it and the individual responsible had resigned from office. You still failed to take note of my own notation earlier that this incident is completely irrelevant when one is concerning himself with an analysis of the entire Israeli-American relationship.
    I guess you better take it up with ex CIA director James Woolsey then who clearly disagrees with you

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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    This comment would have worked better had I not responded several minutes earlier with an answer to his question, y'know.

    It's all about the timing.
    You are right, I guess I missed that one.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by MVictorP View Post
    And what about giving an answer to my post?
    Your understanding of the Bible kept you in the dark....apparently
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Should we give Israel more aid? ...
    yes, we should

    and we should disburse it only when israel returns all of its forces and all of its settlers to the israeli borders identified by the UN

    until that time, not only should israel be denied more monies, it should be denied any monies from the US taxpayer
    if the nation of israel can afford to have its army occupy the lands of another people, then it does not need our subsidy
    if the nation of israel can afford to construct and protect settlements, displacing the indigenous people who are lawfully entitled to those lands, then it does not need our subsidy

    so, yes, provide israel with more financial assistance. but only when it withdraws to its own lawful borders
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Your understanding of the Bible kept you in the dark....apparently
    Pretty much the same result with this all this kind of fantaisist tribal tripe. Religion has done much more harm than good over the years. Too bad you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.
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    Re: Israel asking U.S. for 50% increase in next defense assistance package [W:98]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I'd say that's the number 1 reason people do support Israel and the Jewish people. Natural man has just assumed he knows better.

    https://www.lds.org/scriptures/gs/natural-man
    Isn't there a forum dedicated to this nonsense.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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