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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why should they care what she thinks? Paying taxes is not enough of a reason. Particularly since she is still beholden to another country.
    lots of refugee/asylum seekers have no such guaranteed stance.

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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    lots of refugee/asylum seekers have no such guaranteed stance.
    Honestly, don't care. Until such time a they are citizens of the US then they should have no say what so ever in our policies. The reason for this is simple. To keep foreign governments from meddling in our affairs as much as possible.
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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That precedent was rather assertively removed, though.

    Wouldn't this remove representatives for the southern states?
    It was indeed removed. As for southern states, I suspect Texas might lose a little but the rest of the south probably would not lose much. California would likely be the biggest loser.
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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Not an issue I have ever thought of. But I think our representatives should represent EVERYONE in their district, not just the voters.
    That's why they are called voting districts. Only eligible citizens can vote. That means American 18 or older have the right to vote, not children or non-citizens.

    The elected officials do represent everyone in their district, like it or not.
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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    This is one of those cases where I expect a straight partisan vote, as it is all about partisan power. This court will side with anything that allows more conservatives to get into offices, even if it further subverts the democratic process.
    The democratic process involves citizens voting for their elected officials, not illegal aliens, other non-citizens, or children under the age of 18. As a lawyer I thought you would probably know that. I guess not.
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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    The democratic process involves citizens voting for their elected officials, not illegal aliens, other non-citizens, or children under the age of 18. As a lawyer I thought you would probably know that. I guess not.
    This has nothing to do with voting. It has to do with redistricting. As an adult, I thought you would be able to read the OP and comprehend the words written there. I guess not.
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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I wish they could make a decision regarding gerrymandering as well, but sadly the constitution is clear on that one.
    They kind of can/are, one of the other voting related cases at the Supreme Court right now is Arizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission

    Basically the Legislature got pissy they couldn't gerrymander because of the citizens of Arizona voted to have an independent (sort of) panel handle redistricting in the state. Since they can't just change the law; iirc, citizens of Arizona also voted to restrict the state from doing that with propositions, why they legislature went to the feds when medical marijuana was passed by the voters, even though they boast about "sticking it to the feds, and state rights," so damn often.

    Here is the arguement:
    Arizona tried that experiment with a ballot measure, Proposition 106, but the state’s legislature — relying on a literal reading of the Constitution’s Elections Clause — has fought back, seeking to reclaim the redistricting power for itself. That clause assigns the duty of drawing election maps to “the legislature” of a state, but that is not further defined.

    Over and over again, the Arizona legislature’s lawyer in the Court on Monday, Washington attorney Paul D. Clement, insisted that “legislature” in constitutional terms has “a certain meaning”: it can only mean a “representative body” that writes a state’s laws. So, he argued, it is unconstitutional for the people of a state to hand off congressional redistricting to “an unelected and unaccountable” state commission.
    Argument analysis: Literalism vs. the power of the people : SCOTUSblog

    So, in a way it can be at least a sort of ruling on gerrymandering, killing independent panels will pretty much give full sail ahead to all the gerrymandering a state legislature wants. EDIT: Finished reading the above link, seems more fit to say that the courts are basically going to rule in favor of gerrymandering, because **** you voters!


    As to the OP, reading the article it doesn't sound like a bad idea, as long as they are counting citizens (including children) and not just voters. Not that I'd be overly pleased with more affluent areas getting additional power, but if that is the way the numbers work then it's how it works (sadly). I also agree it seems more a political move, not as bad as the Arizona one but still, then a concern for accuracy and proper representation.
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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Because it's arbitrary and doesn't matter, and this is only a partisan move to weaken liberal voting blocs through gerrymandering. It has nothing to do with accuracy or principle. If we were interested in that, our districts would be drawn by a computer to be as uniform and compact as possible and not look like this.

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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Well i'm guessing this would eliminate the rolls for prisoners and minors as well then, which should reduce the # of representatives and electoral votes in red states, since half of the population is in jail with 15 kids

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    Re: Supreme Court to hear case that could change how voting districts are drawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It was indeed removed. As for southern states, I suspect Texas might lose a little but the rest of the south probably would not lose much. California would likely be the biggest loser.
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