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    Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    I completely agree with what this man is trying to do.

    Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global | World news | The Guardian

    A councillor whose campaign against food waste led to a law forcing French supermarkets to donate unwanted food to charity has set his sights on getting similar legislation passed globally. Arash Derambarsh said it was “scandalous and absurd” that food is wasted and in some cases deliberately spoiled while the homeless, poor and unemployed go hungry. Derambarsh – a municipal councillor for the “Divers Droit” (diverse right) in Courbevoie, north-west of Paris – persuaded French MPs to adopt the regulation after a petition gained more than 200,000 signatures and celebrity support in just four months. The amendment was approved as part of a wider law – the Loi Macron – that covers economic activity and equality in France and is expected to be passed by the national assembly on Tuesday, entering the statute books shortly afterwards. It will bar supermarkets from throwing away food approaching best-before dates and deliberately poisoning products with bleach to stop them being retrieved by people foraging through bins.

    Now Derambarsh wants to convince European countries and the wider world to adopt similar bans. “Food is the basis of life, it is an elementary factor in our existence,” he told the Guardian. “I have been insulted and attacked and accused of being naive and idealistic, but I became a local councillor because I wanted to help people. Perhaps it is naive to be concerned about other human beings, but I know what it is like to be hungry. “When I was a law student living on about €400 a month after I’d paid my rent, I used to have one proper meal a day around 5pm. I’d eat pasta, or potatoes, but it’s hard to study or work if you are hungry and always thinking about where the next meal will come from.” Derambarsh started his campaign by collecting and distributing unwanted food from his local supermarket. “Every day we’d help around 100 people. Half would be single mothers with several children, pensioners or public workers on low salaries, the other half would be those living on the streets or in shelters,” he said.

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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    I do not support this law. One, it should be a business's choice what to do with product that doesn't sell. For another, what if people get sick from eating expired food?

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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    Such is always noble. I hope his plan works.
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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    I do not support this law. One, it should be a business's choice what to do with product that doesn't sell. For another, what if people get sick from eating expired food?
    You Probably go to bed well fed every night, easy to say. Food doesn't spoil on its ex date, and depending on the product, can still be viable sometime after. There's nothing wrong with the program, it has merit.
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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

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    I completely agree with what this man is trying to do.

    Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global | World news | The Guardian

    A councillor whose campaign against food waste led to a law forcing French supermarkets to donate unwanted food to charity has set his sights on getting similar legislation passed globally. Arash Derambarsh said it was “scandalous and absurd” that food is wasted and in some cases deliberately spoiled while the homeless, poor and unemployed go hungry. Derambarsh – a municipal councillor for the “Divers Droit” (diverse right) in Courbevoie, north-west of Paris – persuaded French MPs to adopt the regulation after a petition gained more than 200,000 signatures and celebrity support in just four months. The amendment was approved as part of a wider law – the Loi Macron – that covers economic activity and equality in France and is expected to be passed by the national assembly on Tuesday, entering the statute books shortly afterwards. It will bar supermarkets from throwing away food approaching best-before dates and deliberately poisoning products with bleach to stop them being retrieved by people foraging through bins.

    Now Derambarsh wants to convince European countries and the wider world to adopt similar bans. “Food is the basis of life, it is an elementary factor in our existence,” he told the Guardian. “I have been insulted and attacked and accused of being naive and idealistic, but I became a local councillor because I wanted to help people. Perhaps it is naive to be concerned about other human beings, but I know what it is like to be hungry. “When I was a law student living on about €400 a month after I’d paid my rent, I used to have one proper meal a day around 5pm. I’d eat pasta, or potatoes, but it’s hard to study or work if you are hungry and always thinking about where the next meal will come from.” Derambarsh started his campaign by collecting and distributing unwanted food from his local supermarket. “Every day we’d help around 100 people. Half would be single mothers with several children, pensioners or public workers on low salaries, the other half would be those living on the streets or in shelters,” he said.
    The idea is good. But who pays for it? Someone has to collect and box the food, and weed out the good from the bad. I don't think a business should have to pay for it. Maybe a business should do that if a non-profit org. agrees to foot the bill. And certainly not the taxpayers. We already pay taxes to feed the poor and homeless. Food stamps, shelters. We already do food drives at holidays. More should be done, and wasting food is unconscionable. But the devil is in the details.

    Next, should homeowners be ticketed if someone finds edible food in their trash cans? People who throw away half a cake or whatever?
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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    For another, what if people get sick from eating expired food?
    Supermarkets chuck food as it approaches the sell by date. In any case, most food is OK a day or two after the given date. You use your judgement, as we did back in the days when sell by dates didn't exist (which I'm old enough to remember). If the top's about to blow off a yoghurt, you don't give it away, in date or not.

    Food is so fundamental to our existence (and are we not ashamed that in "rich" countries people are reduced to using food banks?) that it is scandalous that supermarkets are chucking edible items in this way. Loath as I am to applaud anybody from the right, this is a great initiative which I fully support.
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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Next, should homeowners be ticketed if someone finds edible food in their trash cans? People who throw away half a cake or whatever?
    More fundamental is to ask WHY people are throwing food away.

    Our parents looked in the pantry and said "Right, what needs using up?" Today people don't even think about stock rotation, they simply look in the fridge and say "Right, what do I fancy today?"
    In the 60s and 70s my parents never had to chuck food away - it would have horrified them, and we didn't even have a fridge until I was about 6 (circa 1969). We had a pantry that they knew how to keep cool, and they knew how to plan, shop and cook (quality products from local shops, not celophane wrapped supermarket cr@p). Education, education, education. And support your small stores before they disappear. I realise for many in the US, that's already too late.
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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    I do not support this law. One, it should be a business's choice what to do with product that doesn't sell. For another, what if people get sick from eating expired food?
    Yeah because starving to death makes more sense.
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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    The idea is good. But who pays for it? Someone has to collect and box the food, and weed out the good from the bad. I don't think a business should have to pay for it. Maybe a business should do that if a non-profit org. agrees to foot the bill. And certainly not the taxpayers. We already pay taxes to feed the poor and homeless. Food stamps, shelters. We already do food drives at holidays. More should be done, and wasting food is unconscionable. But the devil is in the details.

    Next, should homeowners be ticketed if someone finds edible food in their trash cans? People who throw away half a cake or whatever?
    I'm more worried about my tax money being used to fund pointless wars.

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    Re: Man who forced French supermarkets to donate food wants to take law global

    Well, if we can pass laws requiring recycling I don't see how this is any different.

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