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    Islamic State crisis: Iraq will take back Ramadi 'in days' - PM Abadi

    Should the United States become more involved in this fight?

    Islamic State crisis: Iraq will take back Ramadi 'in days' - PM Abadi - BBC News

    The Iraqi city of Ramadi could be taken back from Islamic State (IS) militants "in days", Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has told the BBC. But he said more support was needed from international coalition partners. Iraqi forces have suffered a number of defeats at the hands of IS over the past year, and fled from a smaller militant force in Ramadi last week. On Sunday, US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter said that the rout showed Iraqi troops lacked the will to fight. Mr Carter told CNN that the Iraqis had chosen to withdraw despite the fact that they "vastly outnumbered" IS forces. Meanwhile, the leader of the Lebanese Shia Hezbollah movement, Hassan Nasrallah, said the world faced an unprecedented danger from IS and other Sunni militant groups fighting in Syria. Some observers say IS now controls 50% of Syria's entire territory - as well as a third of Iraq.

    In a BBC interview, Mr Abadi said he was surprised at the US defence secretary's comments. "[Mr Carter] was very supportive of Iraq and I am sure he was fed with the wrong information," he said. The prime minister added that his forces were fazed by IS shock tactics. "They have the will to fight but when they are faced with an onslaught by [IS] from nowhere... with armoured trucks packed with explosives, the effect of them is like a small nuclear bomb - it gives a very very bad effect on our forces," he said. The Iraqi government has deployed Shia militias to the area to try to stop the IS advance, and Mr Abadi said he was confident that Ramadi could be recaptured. "It makes my heart bleed because we lost Ramadi, but I can assure you we can bring it back soon," he said.

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    Re: Islamic State crisis: Iraq will take back Ramadi 'in days' - PM Abadi

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Should the United States become more involved in this fight?

    Islamic State crisis: Iraq will take back Ramadi 'in days' - PM Abadi - BBC News

    The Iraqi city of Ramadi could be taken back from Islamic State (IS) militants "in days", Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has told the BBC. But he said more support was needed from international coalition partners. Iraqi forces have suffered a number of defeats at the hands of IS over the past year, and fled from a smaller militant force in Ramadi last week. On Sunday, US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter said that the rout showed Iraqi troops lacked the will to fight. Mr Carter told CNN that the Iraqis had chosen to withdraw despite the fact that they "vastly outnumbered" IS forces. Meanwhile, the leader of the Lebanese Shia Hezbollah movement, Hassan Nasrallah, said the world faced an unprecedented danger from IS and other Sunni militant groups fighting in Syria. Some observers say IS now controls 50% of Syria's entire territory - as well as a third of Iraq.

    In a BBC interview, Mr Abadi said he was surprised at the US defence secretary's comments. "[Mr Carter] was very supportive of Iraq and I am sure he was fed with the wrong information," he said. The prime minister added that his forces were fazed by IS shock tactics. "They have the will to fight but when they are faced with an onslaught by [IS] from nowhere... with armoured trucks packed with explosives, the effect of them is like a small nuclear bomb - it gives a very very bad effect on our forces," he said. The Iraqi government has deployed Shia militias to the area to try to stop the IS advance, and Mr Abadi said he was confident that Ramadi could be recaptured. "It makes my heart bleed because we lost Ramadi, but I can assure you we can bring it back soon," he said.
    I am not really sure, who should do what. It is less an American problem, where the Sunni rule and where not.
    What is a problem is that they are enemies and want an atomic capability as do the Mullahs in Tehran and which Pakistan already has.

    But all said, it should be the extended neighborhood especially in Europe, Arabia and Russia and the UN that is active in protecting the populations.

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    Re: Islamic State crisis: Iraq will take back Ramadi 'in days' - PM Abadi

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Should the United States become more involved in this fight?
    Ideologically speaking, hell no. Unfortunately, we may have no choice now. That permanent 'South Korea' military occupation model I was talking about may have to become a reality in Iraq.

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    The Iraqi city of Ramadi could be taken back from Islamic State (IS) militants "in days", Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has told the BBC. But he said more support was needed from international coalition partners.
    He may be right. It appears the Iraqi military is simply incapable of doing this on their own.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: Islamic State crisis: Iraq will take back Ramadi 'in days' - PM Abadi

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Should the United States become more involved in this fight?

    Islamic State crisis: Iraq will take back Ramadi 'in days' - PM Abadi - BBC News

    The Iraqi city of Ramadi could be taken back from Islamic State (IS) militants "in days", Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has told the BBC. But he said more support was needed from international coalition partners. Iraqi forces have suffered a number of defeats at the hands of IS over the past year, and fled from a smaller militant force in Ramadi last week. On Sunday, US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter said that the rout showed Iraqi troops lacked the will to fight. Mr Carter told CNN that the Iraqis had chosen to withdraw despite the fact that they "vastly outnumbered" IS forces. Meanwhile, the leader of the Lebanese Shia Hezbollah movement, Hassan Nasrallah, said the world faced an unprecedented danger from IS and other Sunni militant groups fighting in Syria. Some observers say IS now controls 50% of Syria's entire territory - as well as a third of Iraq.

    In a BBC interview, Mr Abadi said he was surprised at the US defence secretary's comments. "[Mr Carter] was very supportive of Iraq and I am sure he was fed with the wrong information," he said. The prime minister added that his forces were fazed by IS shock tactics. "They have the will to fight but when they are faced with an onslaught by [IS] from nowhere... with armoured trucks packed with explosives, the effect of them is like a small nuclear bomb - it gives a very very bad effect on our forces," he said. The Iraqi government has deployed Shia militias to the area to try to stop the IS advance, and Mr Abadi said he was confident that Ramadi could be recaptured. "It makes my heart bleed because we lost Ramadi, but I can assure you we can bring it back soon," he said.
    No, of course not. The folks that created the problem shouldn't be involved in the cure, no.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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