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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Don't remind me of that, I was the one of a handful that opposed it at the run up, commencement, throughout its course, to its completion and withdrawal. Regularly reminding you of what a mistake it was and how that now, the majority of people agree with what my position was, all along.
    Your opinion is quite irrelevant here. The fact is that the United States led a military Coalition into Iraq and then later made the ludicrous claim, by Obama, that they could unilaterally determine that the war was over. There seems to be millions who don't understand that it takes a minimum of two parties to declare and end to a war. The other side, as we can see, has not abandoned the war and continues murdering anyone in their way, just as they did prior to the Military taking control of the area until 2011, and Obama's retreat.

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    By a consensus amongst American intelligence agency in its annual 2006 NIE, that war, the very invasion and occupation of Iraq, is the reason we have what we have today, was the direct responsibility for an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe, yet there's folk here blaming Obama for the mess, discounting Bush's NIE assessment!!
    That doesn't matter. The fact is that a Coalition of military powers, led by the United States, attacked Iraq, captured Saddam so he could be put on trial by the Iraqi people, introduced democray, made Iraq 'stable' and then withdrew, despite and against all advice.

    It is America's war, not George Bush's war or Barrack Obama's war. Terrorists will kill any American they can by any means they can, and care not whether they are Democrat or Republican, Christian, Jew, Atheist, or Muslim. America, no matter what that goofy BHO claims, is still at war. And some, like yourself perhaps, are still debating whose fault it was without, like Obama, having any clear strategy to deal with that reality.

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    By a consensus amongst American intelligence agency in its annual 2006 NIE, that war, the very invasion and occupation of Iraq, is the reason we have what we have today, was the direct responsibility for an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe, yet there's folk here blaming Obama for the mess, discounting Bush's NIE assessment!!
    You have what you have and are eventually going to have to deal with it. Time to look at the future with some coherency rather than running about like Chicken Little debating whose fault it all was.

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You have what you have and are eventually going to have to deal with it. Time to look at the future with some coherency rather than running about like Chicken Little debating whose fault it all was.
    No, I don't. I think you guys are the ones with boots on the ground who need to deal with it, lol.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That doesn't matter. The fact is that a Coalition of military powers, led by the United States, attacked Iraq, captured Saddam so he could be put on trial by the Iraqi people, introduced democray, made Iraq 'stable' and then withdrew, despite and against all advice.

    It is America's war, not George Bush's war or Barrack Obama's war. Terrorists will kill any American they can by any means they can, and care not whether they are Democrat or Republican, Christian, Jew, Atheist, or Muslim. America, no matter what that goofy BHO claims, is still at war. And some, like yourself perhaps, are still debating whose fault it was without, like Obama, having any clear strategy to deal with that reality.
    We're not scared. Take your fear mongering elsewhere.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Your opinion is quite irrelevant here. The fact is that the United States led a military Coalition into Iraq and then later made the ludicrous claim, by Obama, that they could unilaterally determine that the war was over. There seems to be millions who don't understand that it takes a minimum of two parties to declare and end to a war. The other side, as we can see, has not abandoned the war and continues murdering anyone in their way, just as they did prior to the Military taking control of the area until 2011, and Obama's retreat.
    I think that as a US citizen, my opinion trumps yours.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think that as a US citizen, my opinion trumps yours.
    It doesn't trump mine. And without even reading Grant's post, I'd bet he is 100% correct.

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We're not scared. Take your fear mongering elsewhere.
    kassigEXECUTION.jpg

    Former U.S. Army Ranger and Indiana native Peter Kassig, who later changed his name to Abdul-Rahman, served in the Iraq war and founded an aid organization for Syrian refugees.
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrymple...cut#.sbPzWD4d4

    Abdul-Rahman (Peter Kassig) probably wasn't scared either.

    Not until he was.

    You don't need to be scared to be conquered or killed.

    Just unwary and unprepared.

    You seem like an advertisement to encourage both.

    (Despite any denials, I believe you are a Muslim.)

    But, they killed Abdul-Rahman and other Muslims, so why shouldn't a Westernized Muslim worry about ISIS, at least in theory?

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    But, they killed Abdul-Rahman and other Muslims, so why shouldn't a Westernized Muslim worry about ISIS, at least in theory?
    Wait, was he killed? Do you have a video? Guys like you are so funny, you believe what is written on the wall and don't search for any proof.

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Your opinion is quite irrelevant here. The fact is that the United States led a military Coalition into Iraq and then later made the ludicrous claim, by Obama, that they could unilaterally determine that the war was over. There seems to be millions who don't understand that it takes a minimum of two parties to declare and end to a war. The other side, as we can see, has not abandoned the war and continues murdering anyone in their way, just as they did prior to the Military taking control of the area until 2011, and Obama's retreat.
    Lol. It's the Canadian setting in San Jose who's opinion is irrelevant!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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