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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Not a ton of fighting going on in germany is there.
    Can I add N Korea in that there has not been a ton of fighting going on. And could it be that there are not a ton of fighting going on is because we are there and have been there for 65 years.

    Reasons whay the US are there is clear as day.
    And that would be to provide security.

    But Obama pulled out of Irag, now it's in flames as well as most of the middle east, and now Obama is back in Iraq.
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    There was no vacuum. An elected government was in place.
    Exactly, however a vacuum was created when Obama SUCKED all our troops out.
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Can I add N Korea in that there has not been a ton of fighting going on. And could it be that there are not a ton of fighting going on is because we are there and have been there for 65 years.



    And that would be to provide security.

    But Obama pulled out of Irag, now it's in flames as well as most of the middle east, and now Obama is back in Iraq.
    Nope- No SOFA- And look at AStan- same thing- Nation building does not work.
    The prize is Asia.
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Nope- No SOFA- And look at AStan- same thing- Nation building does not work.
    The prize is Asia.
    Never said it did, but after WWII we stayed in countries to keep stability, unlike Obama pulling out of Iraq and now it's in flames and we're back in. Hillary what we know now would you have pulled out of Iraq?
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Can I add N Korea in that there has not been a ton of fighting going on. And could it be that there are not a ton of fighting going on is because we are there and have been there for 65 years.



    And that would be to provide security.

    But Obama pulled out of Irag, now it's in flames as well as most of the middle east, and now Obama is back in Iraq.

    The US are in Germany to act as a deterrent however it is also a hugely important forward operation base for you especially Ramstein . Those bases in Germany have been vital for the US in the last 12 years,
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Never said it did, but after WWII we stayed in countries to keep stability, unlike Obama pulling out of Iraq and now it's in flames and we're back in. Hillary what we know now would you have pulled out of Iraq?
    Comparing Japan, Korea and Germany to Iraq is not a reasonable comparison.
    You are really reaching for justification.
    Why not admit what the rest of the world does know- nation building in Iraq- AStan is a fools dream.
    Asia is where the strategic interests of the US are, that along with, wait for it, Africa. Could be the worlds food basket.
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    In Germany longer. And that proves what?
    It proves that many of these people, especially in Germany, could have been moved elsewhere. It proves that the military is often required to maintain peace.

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Comparing Japan, Korea and Germany to Iraq is not a reasonable comparison.
    You are really reaching for justification.
    Why not admit what the rest of the world does know- nation building in Iraq- AStan is a fools dream.
    Asia is where the strategic interests of the US are, that along with, wait for it, Africa. Could be the worlds food basket.
    In fact in those places you mentioned, Nation Building is exactly what happened and people also said r=that Japan, Korea and germany could never be democracies.

    D you really think that the Arabs are that backward?

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    The US are in Germany to act as a deterrent however it is also a hugely important forward operation base for you especially Ramstein . Those bases in Germany have been vital for the US in the last 12 years,
    When Germans complained about the military bases a few years ago the Americans said they would leave, until the locals realized just how much these bases meant to their economy.

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Nope- No SOFA- And look at AStan- same thing- Nation building does not work.
    The prize is Asia.
    What difference did SOFA make in Iraq? Obama wanted to leave and he did. SOFA was not an issue at the time and only became an excuse by the apologists later.

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