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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Opposed by whom?
    Emerging powers that will balance it out. I know that's troubling to you.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its always been clear you thought this.
    Yes, I've tried to make that clear, I'm glad it has been. Anything that threatens global security, I'm opposed to.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You seem quite content with the mess the U.S. has created in Iraq and the entire region now. Not only you, but the rest of the pro-war gang here are bitching because we don't have boots on the ground once again. It's very much time for the nations in the region to deal with the extremists in their midst themselves. You are a fringe group. The vast majority of people now acknowledge that the invasion and occupation of Iraq was a mistake, that includes, to your chagrin, the majority of your own GOP congress! Do you want to accuse them along with the majority of Americans of finding happiness at the thought of people being "gassed and brutally murdered"?
    In the same way you seem very content with murderous dictators.
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Parker View Post
    Who told you it was a murderous, brutal dictatreship? In 1998 Iraq was a stable State (comparing with others in the Middle East) and what is more important it's population was united.
    For Modern World Saddam was a relique of the past, but who gave them the right?...

    There is no exact answer what was better for Iraq - to stay with Saddam or to make changes, but what I know exactly is that at the moment Iraqis are missing those times.

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by MVictorP View Post
    Who are you anyway - his mother?
    Why you looking for a date or something?
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    In the same way you seem very content with murderous dictators.
    Well, a nice rounded democracy would be preferrable (that's what I would be content with) to pretty much anything I've ever seen in the Middle East in my lifetime. But the U.S. Is impotent to deliver that. For all the U.S. Interference in the Middle East, I've never seen matters worse. So, sense we can't improve things, and all efforts have worsened things, seems obvious that we should leave things alone there, and let the region find its own way.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You don't believe anything Biden and Obama say, you're just using that to further beat them over the head with. That's fine though, they were wrong on that as well.
    Are you saying they deliberately lied, or they are just stupid?
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Are you saying they deliberately lied, or they are just stupid?
    I'm saying they were wrong. Whether they lied deliberately, accidentally, misrepresented, misunderstood, were wishful thinking, or were stupid is for anybody to decide.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    When it comes to Iraq, all I know is that Biden called Iraq a great accomplishment of the OBAMA administration and pulled out. Bush handed an Iraq won war to Obama that Obama has now lost along with all the blood and treasure. And now Obama is back in Iraq and losing.
    Well, all you know is quite limited.

    US won’t have to do it. There will be little to no reconciliation between Shia – Sunni-
    The Iranians and their puppets will ensure that the persecution of the Sunni minority continues.
    The Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi has been effectively sidelined.
    US sending more arm to Iraq, that they will sell, run away when attacked or use on the Sunni minority.
    And the US could have stayed in Iraq till the cows came home.
    The persecution of the Sunni under Maliki, was well known to the US after he was elected in 2006. 2 years before Bush’s term was completed.
    Yet Obama lost a War that was won? It never was won.
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    Re: Iraqi forces losing 'will to fight' against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Well, all you know is quite limited.

    US won’t have to do it. There will be little to no reconciliation between Shia – Sunni-
    The Iranians and their puppets will ensure that the persecution of the Sunni minority continues.
    The Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi has been effectively sidelined.
    US sending more arm to Iraq, that they will sell, run away when attacked or use on the Sunni minority.
    And the US could have stayed in Iraq till the cows came home.
    The persecution of the Sunni under Maliki, was well known to the US after he was elected in 2006. 2 years before Bush’s term was completed.
    Yet Obama lost a War that was won? It never was won.
    Tell that to Biden and Obama, they said Iraq was a great accomplishment of the Obama administration.

    Speaking of staying until the cows come home, we've been in S Korea sense 1950, that is 65 years and counting.
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