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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

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    Why? Why is the treatment of soldiers more important than the treatment of any fellow human being? I have a feeling many of those wounded warriors would disagree with you.
    I don't consider a lump of cells to be a "fellow human being". Now I oppose "partial birth abortion" except in the most extreme cases such as the mother will die. However, that possibility is about as rare as being gored to death by a White Rhino

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't consider a lump of cells to be a "fellow human being". Now I oppose "partial birth abortion" except in the most extreme cases such as the mother will die. However, that possibility is about as rare as being gored to death by a White Rhino

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    This thread is about aborting humans with Down Syndrome. This condition is not detectable when the developmental stage is "a lump of cells".

    It appears you put the "lib" in "libertarian".

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    This will be overturned by the courts if it passes. It's an undue restriction on abortion.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    This thread is about aborting humans with Down Syndrome. This condition is not detectable when the developmental stage is "a lump of cells".

    It appears you put the "lib" in "libertarian".
    true, I oppose this stupid law. If you can abort a fetus because you don't like wearing maternity clothes or because you are now upset the guy who pronged you won't marry you, then a far better reason-a child that will be profoundly handicapped-should be legal as well
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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    CB, Morning
    I am Pro Abortion as the women’s decision to make up to a point.
    I agree with the prohibition on late term abortions, approx at the 22 week mark as the child is viable.
    Only exception would be if the mother’s life was at risk, and that would be hers to make, and hers to live or die with.
    In 76 my girlfriend became pregnant. I offered the usual things a man does, but it was hers to make.
    My daughter or son would be turning 39 late this year. It seems to be a constant on my mind.
    I am sorry to hear that. It is a loss that affects us. That seems to be lost in the debate.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    CB, Morning
    I am Pro Abortion as the women’s decision to make up to a point.
    I agree with the prohibition on late term abortions, approx at the 22 week mark as the child is viable.
    Only exception would be if the mother’s life was at risk, and that would be hers to make, and hers to live or die with.
    In 76 my girlfriend became pregnant. I offered the usual things a man does, but it was hers to make.
    My daughter or son would be turning 39 late this year. It seems to be a constant on my mind.
    Abortions after 21 weeks are very rare and legal abortions after viability only happen in extreme cases when the woman's life is risk or if irrepable damage to a major bodiliy function ( such as stroke,heart attack, paralysis from the neck down, kidney damage, etc. ) would occur if the pregnancy continued.

    There are only 4 doctors and 3clinics that perform legal abortions for the extreme cases. One of those clinics is in Arizonia. OB/GYNs from all over the US send their patients with these extreme conditions to one of the 3 clinics.

    This Arizonia Health Dept. link of abotion stats I found is from 2013

    There were 137 abortions over 21 weeks gestation.
    The age was unknown in 25 of the abortions.

    Page 26 of link.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    This law is ludicrous and appalling.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    If anyone believes that people with learning difficulties cannot lead a full, productive and active life they should watch this TV movie. It's won a crop of awards and is a bio-pic of a very special person, who appears in it on several occasions, and makes the eugenics/euthinasia supporters look what they are.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why would anybody be against aborting a baby with a life altering condition which would guarantee that person would never be a productive member of society?
    Be that as it may, I'm still against aborting Democrats.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't consider a lump of cells to be a "fellow human being".
    What you consider and what is reality don't align very well.

    You are a "lump of cells."

    Don't put on airs just because you're a bigger lump. You're an organism of the species Homo sapiens, same as any unborn kid, Trisomy 21 or not.

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