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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What would that family been able to accomplish if they didn't have to spend the time and resources on that baby/child?
    Oh...it is rough on them financially. He will never be able to retire and the Mom was never able to work to care for her. He received an inheritance when his parents died and was able to pay off the house...that is what saved them. They love her dearly but I think the Mom sometimes reflects what if. She never gets a break...24/7 and she is a older Mom. I feel bad for them.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Ah, right. On the other hand, the hypocritical phrasings of the false Christian religion are completely intellectually respectable. I'd forgotten. How thoughtless of me.
    I rest my case.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Then the severely handicapped – physically-mentally- should watch out eh?
    For zealots like him? Yes.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I don't disagree. Every case is different. I would rather err on the side of caution though, and preserve all human life. Who are we to say a life rife with malady is less preferable than no life at all?

    I would prefer abortions never occur, but I think pro-lifers should concentrate on limiting late term abortions, rather than subjective perceptions such as this down syndrome legislation.
    That is exactly the case...we cannot say or make choices for others in a free society. I wish abortion numbers were much lower than they are...and would never get one myself...but I will never judge or choose for another person. The older I get, the softer I become on this issue...and I agree late term abortions should never happen unless the Mother's life is in danger or something horribly goes wrong with the fetus. If a woman cannot make a decision within 12 weeks for what is best for her situation...then live with the mistake or consequence. Adoption is a choice too. The hospital that I work for is one of the no questions asked drop off spots for people who do not want their children anymore...and we have seen a fair share of infants. Those babies are gone within hours of people who want them, mostly the staff members. There are strong pro choice advocates pushing for 26 weeks...then it will go to 30 weeks..etc. I have read some articles where abortions are performed because of the sex.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Google it. I was being much nastier than you think.



    They are a collective drain on resources.

    I don't begrudge your views on the rhino; I accept and endorse them wholeheartedly. I am simply extending your logic.
    To the nonsensical. That is not a society – It is a caveman mentality.
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Ah, right. On the other hand, the hypocritical phrasings of the false Christian religion are completely intellectually respectable. I'd forgotten. How thoughtless of me.
    Is their a true Religion?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I don't disagree. Every case is different. I would rather err on the side of caution though, and preserve all human life. Who are we to say a life rife with malady is less preferable than no life at all? Not that you said that, just making a point.

    I would prefer abortions never occur, but I think pro-lifers should concentrate on limiting late term abortions, rather than subjective perceptions such as this down syndrome legislation.
    CB, Morning
    I am Pro Abortion as the women’s decision to make up to a point.
    I agree with the prohibition on late term abortions, approx at the 22 week mark as the child is viable.
    Only exception would be if the mother’s life was at risk, and that would be hers to make, and hers to live or die with.
    In 76 my girlfriend became pregnant. I offered the usual things a man does, but it was hers to make.
    My daughter or son would be turning 39 late this year. It seems to be a constant on my mind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Well your beliefs are completely ludicrous, inhuman to say the least.
    Bull. How could they be inhuman if they are inline with the betterment of the species?

    Humans are on this earth to reproduce. All the other stuff is man made crap.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Oh...it is rough on them financially. He will never be able to retire and the Mom was never able to work to care for her. He received an inheritance when his parents died and was able to pay off the house...that is what saved them. They love her dearly but I think the Mom sometimes reflects what if. She never gets a break...24/7 and she is a older Mom. I feel bad for them.
    Did they have any other kids? I really feel sorry for the other kids in a family where there is a baby like this. They don't get what they need to thrive.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How are they going to prove that a given abortion was performed because the fetus had downs?
    Greetings, Dittohead not!

    It sounds like doctors are going to be on the "hot-seat," because they'll be required to produce records of blood-work and ultrasound testing, and when said testing was done, to determine if the fetus had downs. Would they be required to give such tests to every pregnant mother they have as a patient, or would it be on a case to case basis depending on family history? This would almost guarantee that obstetrics is going to get a lot more expensive than it already is, IMO. Since the sponsor of the bill doesn't feel that getting an abortion is warranted just because a baby may have downs, I don't see this bill being voted into law, especially since a woman may currently have an abortion for any reason she wishes. .

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