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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Bible John said it himself:
    I'm not the slightest bit religious, so you must have pulled the "Bible John" crap out of your ass. Pro-tip - it never helps your argument when you resort to idiocy.

    As for my comments in the thread related to a Rhino that was hunted because it was endangering the reproductive efforts of its herd, I stand by them. If you think a down syndrome baby, or even a herd of down babies, has the same power to alter or halt the survival of mankind, you're either delusional or you've come across some pretty powerful down babies.
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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Then the severely handicapped physically-mentally- should watch out eh?
    I doubt they're much in the way of watching, really.

    I favor hard austerity - the abolition of all fiscal redistribution schemes, whether vertical or lateral - coupled to a voluntary eugenics programme.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Humans are the only species on the planet that waste resources on members that contribute nothing.
    Nope

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not the slightest bit religious, so you must have pulled the "Bible John" crap out of your ass. Pro-tip - it never helps your argument when you resort to idiocy.
    Google it. I was being much nastier than you think.

    As for my comments in the thread related to a Rhino that was hunted because it was endangering the reproductive efforts of its herd, I stand by them. If you think a down syndrome baby, or even a herd of down babies, has the same power to alter or halt the survival of mankind, you're either delusional or you've come across some pretty powerful down babies.
    They are a collective drain on resources.

    I don't begrudge your views on the rhino; I accept and endorse them wholeheartedly. I am simply extending your logic.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I doubt they're much in the way of watching, really.

    I favor hard austerity - the abolition of all fiscal redistribution schemes, whether vertical or lateral - coupled to a voluntary eugenics programme.
    Glad to say it ain't gonna happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It's called compassion. Are you anti-compassion?

    In fact, there are many with Down Syndrome who are productive members of society.
    Downs is different for everyone. Some are high functioning and some are very sick and need constant surgery on their extremities as well as heart surgeries. I think it is more about quality of life risk than productiveness. I know a couple who has a little Down's girl and her Mom knew by prenatal testing that Down's Syndrome was a high risk and she decided to keep her. The little girl is 13 and has multiple surgeries on her feet and heart and has suffered greatly. She is dependent for life on her parents and now they are worried about who will care for her when they are gone. The Mom was 46 when the girl was born. I know another case where the son with Down's lives in an apartment and works for a local grocery store. It is hard to determine which way it will fall...but banning abortion in this case would be wrong due to the multiple circumstances. I am sure this would be a miserable decision for a parent.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Nope

    Are you seriously posting a video of one monkey and claiming all monkeys do that?

    I was talking about birth defects anyway, not anything like this.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Downs is different for everyone. Some are high functioning and some are very sick and need constant surgery on their extremities as well as heart surgeries. I think it is more about quality of life risk than productiveness. I know a couple who has a little Down's girl and her Mom knew by prenatal testing that Down's Syndrome was a high risk and she decided to keep her. The little girl is 13 and has multiple surgeries on her feet and heart and has suffered greatly. She is dependent for life on her parents and now they are worried about who will care for her when they are gone. The Mom was 46 when the girl was born. I know another case where the son with Down's lives in an apartment and works for a local grocery store. It is hard to determine which way it will fall...but banning abortion in this case would be wrong due to the multiple circumstances. I am sure this would be a miserable decision for a parent.
    What would that family been able to accomplish if they didn't have to spend the time and resources on that baby/child?

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Are you seriously posting a video of one monkey and claiming all monkeys do that?

    I was talking about birth defects anyway, not anything like this.
    Well your beliefs are completely ludicrous, inhuman to say the least.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Downs is different for everyone. Some are high functioning and some are very sick and need constant surgery on their extremities as well as heart surgeries. I think it is more about quality of life risk than productiveness. I know a couple who has a little Down's girl and her Mom knew by prenatal testing that Down's Syndrome was a high risk and she decided to keep her. The little girl is 13 and has multiple surgeries on her feet and heart and has suffered greatly. She is dependent for life on her parents and now they are worried about who will care for her when they are gone. The Mom was 46 when the girl was born. I know another case where the son with Down's lives in an apartment and works for a local grocery store. It is hard to determine which way it will fall...but banning abortion in this case would be wrong due to the multiple circumstances. I am sure this would be a miserable decision for a parent.
    I don't disagree. Every case is different. I would rather err on the side of caution though, and preserve all human life. Who are we to say a life rife with malady is less preferable than no life at all? Not that you said that, just making a point.

    I would prefer abortions never occur, but I think pro-lifers should concentrate on limiting late term abortions, rather than subjective perceptions such as this down syndrome legislation.
    Last edited by countryboy; 05-24-15 at 01:29 PM.

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