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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Because human society is limited in the means of its self-perpetuation. Scarcity defines societies; there are hard technological and ecological limitations to the carrying capacity of any one civilization at any one given stage of development. This carrying capacity can expand with material progress - or retract with economic calamity - but can never be exceeded on its given level. Consequently, priority must be given to those capable of further improving the material conditions of civilization - must be given to us, the living.

    Explanation enough, dear sir?

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Humans are the only species on the planet that waste resources on members that contribute nothing.
    It's called compassion. Are you anti-compassion?

    In fact, there are many with Down Syndrome who are productive members of society.

    People with Down syndrome attend school, work, participate in decisions that affect them, and contribute to society in many wonderful ways. - See more at: http://www.ndss.org/Down-Syndrome/Do....CaXTS52f.dpuf

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Because human society is limited in the means of its self-perpetuation. Scarcity defines societies; there are hard technological and ecological limitations to the carrying capacity of any one civilization at any one given stage of development. This carrying capacity can expand with material progress - or retract with economic calamity - but can never be exceeded on its given level. Consequently, priority must be given to those capable of further improving the material conditions of civilization - must be given to us, the living.

    Explanation enough, dear sir?
    No. Pseudo-intellectual claptrap, nothing more.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why would anybody be against aborting a baby with a life altering condition which would guarantee that person would never be a productive member of society?
    Many downs syndrome people and their parents would challenge you on whether or not they are productive members of society, and rightly so. Irrespective of the issue identified in the OP, your comment is truly offensive.
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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    No. Pseudo-intellectual claptrap, nothing more.
    Ah, right. On the other hand, the hypocritical phrasings of the false Christian religion are completely intellectually respectable. I'd forgotten. How thoughtless of me.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Personally, I'm all for fewer abortions, however, this bill is irresponsible and the foreseen consequences should have been thought of before enactment. If a state is going to take such a position, they have to be fully prepared to take custody and care of the resulting, presumably unwanted child and see to his/her life's needs for his/her entire lifetime.

    If the overriding law provides for individual choice up to a certain stage of pregnancy, that choice must be unfettered or it is meaningless.
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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Many downs syndrome people and their parents would challenge you on whether or not they are productive members of society, and rightly so. Irrespective of the issue identified in the OP, your comment is truly offensive.
    You can take it that was if you wish.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Bible John said it himself:

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    Culling of animals to preserve the species as well as to preserve other species and other environments is something man can do well and responsibly and it should be supported when properly managed and regulated.

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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You can take it that was if you wish.
    What other way is your comment to be taken? In a blanket way, you claimed that a down syndrome baby is "guaranteed" to never be a productive member of society. Unless you have some magic eight ball, how do you predetermine any baby's level of productivity at birth?
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    Re: Ohio House bill would ban abortions spurred by diagnosis of Down syndrome

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Yes, ideally.
    Then the severely handicapped physically-mentally- should watch out eh?
    If my post offends you, I deeply Apple-O-Jize.

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