When Roe v Wade was decided the SC had to take the woman's right to privacy into consideration and states right to protect the the potentiality of human life into consideration.
The SC decided that at viability the state had " compelling interest " in the potentiality of life and at that point viability over rode the right to privacy.
As I said abortions past 21 weeks are very rare as they are unsafe for the woman and doctor and there needs to be a fetal or maternal medical reason for an abortion that late in the pregnancy.
a) I don't believe in any deity.but for your belief in a deity, you cannot say an unborn fetus has any of those characteristics
b) The current ability to reason is not the standard for legal rights... or there would be plenty of posters on this site who are presumably adult humans but would have no rights... snark aside, that also means someone in a coma, medically induced or otherwise, or even just asleep would have no rights.
The ability to physically defend yourself is not the standard for legal rights. Might does NOT make right.
Furthermore, legal rights are subjective / political, which means they are entirely mutable - you cannot justify not providing them to some humans just by virtue of asserting that you are not and don't want to.
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Please tell me why you would willing have a baby that you knew in the early stages would have a severe disability and you would spend the rest of your life taking care of to the exclusion of everything else you should be doing.
**** society. Our rights are individual.because if SOCIETY does not punish murder, anarchy will result.
So what you're saying is that in order to be satisfied that it should be illegal, we need fathers of aborted kids to hunt down their kids' killers?If someone were to kill my son or wife or brother and society does NOTHING to punish the murderer, I am going to spent the rest of my days on earth doing every thing possible to kill everyone who was responsible for said killing. and I suspect that the survivors of my wrath would probably try to do the same to me and so on and so on
Well, I guess that makes some kind of perverse sense, but I'd rather just have justice instead of vigilantism or revenge.
By this standard, a homeless man with no family or friends is completely acceptable to murder.so by having recourse to the criminal justice system, the desire for personal vengeance is mostly alleviated as people who have seen loved ones murdered defer to the state to punish the bastards who killed a family member or close friend
no such impetus exists for an abortion.
But this is not the standard - we are all created equal and we all possess the same unalienable right to life. It is just as wrong to kill the well-connected with folks who will miss them as it is to kill someone who is all alone in the world.
2) if however, you are consistent, you are forced to support abominations like opposing abortion in cases of rape, incest, or the imminent death of the mother
which is a losing proposition.
3) and you have to tell us how society is better off jailing mothers who have abortions
I can see why women get so militant when they hear men telling them that abortion ought to be banned. Its a moronic position that only hurts society