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    Re: Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    And what did the people who didn't watch the Egyptian video say about it in both contexts? If you hit the bottom of the hole, stop digging.
    That our foreign policy agenda isn't based upon Egyptian media analysis. We don't care what they think.
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    Re: Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That our foreign policy agenda isn't based upon Egyptian media analysis. We don't care what they think.
    Well, that has nothing to do with the video but it was an interesting guess.
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    Re: Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I know how to respond to this kind of barbarism... with extreme force and malice.

    these aren't people that the civilized world can ever reason or negotiate with.

    our President has already committed to a strategy of doing nothing of substance.... so our hands are pretty much tied.

    I'll have to cheer on Iran as they go after ISIS, I guess.... no one else seems to have the will or the balls to thrown down with the ISIS boys <shrug>
    Obama has said over and over that the US can not solve the problems in the ME. So this is the result of that thinking although he does have a point. The perception is that BO is a weak president like Carter was.
    Much of Putin's policy in the Ukraine is a result of the so-called policy that this weak BO has.

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    Re: Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city

    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    OMG. What is with this mentality of pointing fingers at everyone but those responsible for this and other massacres? Are those Americans that just slaughtered 400 people? British? Irish? French? Chinese? No. They are not. The ONLY ones responsible for this and the other massacres that they have done are those that are in and support ISIS. They're the ones doing the killing. They're the ones that decided to take advantage of a weak government to commit these atrocities. They're the ones to blame. NO. ONE. ELSES.

    I see this crap day in and day out. Blaming guns for PEOPLE that use them wrongly. Blaming drugs for PEOPLE actions. etc etc etc. If you want to blame someone then blame those PEOPLE that actually are doing this. Not people/things/ideologies/(insert non-person crap here).

    All this "but Bush/Obama caused this vacuum!" (or insert some other stupid "reasoning") does not mean that those in ISIS couldn't have just sat down and did things peacefully instead of slaughtering everyone that they didn't like. Those in ISIS are the ones responsible for this. No one else.
    So, if a bank were to leave stacks of cash lying on the counters, within easy reach of people coming to work with the tellers, instead of locked away in cash boxes inside the safe, and then the bank got robbed, it would not at all be the "fault" of the bank personnel and directors? There would be "no fault" on the part of the people who continued to deposit their money in such a poorly run bank?

    How about the outside agency who was hired to provide security at the bank, or worse, an outside agency which forcibly assumed the responsibility of the bank's security, against the will and wishes of the bank staff, and then left the stacks of cash lying about?

    When we invaded Iraq, we placed ourselves in a position of at least partial responsibility for the outcomes of its security for a period of time. You can argue that the valid period should have been just X years, and that time is past, but you cannot legitimately say we never had any responsibility!

    Furthermore, over the Obama-Era, following Obama's direct orders, we went around the middle east destabilizing and giving arms and air-power support to one "Arab Spring" revolt/uprising after another in how many countries? Seven, ... Ten? I've lost count!

    Where did the militants that made up the ISIS original forces come from? Wasn't it the same Syrian Rebels we armed, air-power backed, and inspired?

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    Re: Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    So, if a bank were to leave stacks of cash lying on the counters, within easy reach of people coming to work with the tellers, instead of locked away in cash boxes inside the safe, and then the bank got robbed, it would not at all be the "fault" of the bank personnel and directors? There would be "no fault" on the part of the people who continued to deposit their money in such a poorly run bank?

    How about the outside agency who was hired to provide security at the bank, or worse, an outside agency which forcibly assumed the responsibility of the bank's security, against the will and wishes of the bank staff, and then left the stacks of cash lying about?

    When we invaded Iraq, we placed ourselves in a position of at least partial responsibility for the outcomes of its security for a period of time. You can argue that the valid period should have been just X years, and that time is past, but you cannot legitimately say we never had any responsibility!

    Furthermore, over the Obama-Era, following Obama's direct orders, we went around the middle east destabilizing and giving arms and air-power support to one "Arab Spring" revolt/uprising after another in how many countries? Seven, ... Ten? I've lost count!

    Where did the militants that made up the ISIS original forces come from? Wasn't it the same Syrian Rebels we armed, air-power backed, and inspired?

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    Great analogy. Polling data shows most Americans now acknowledge that. Even the GOP congress now accepts that reality. Ha, Rand Paul told Morning Joe yesterday that the rise of the Islamic State is largely the fault of hawks in his party! Thankfully those that are unwilling to accept the US's responsibility for creating the conditions for the rise of the Islamic State are a small minority. I think half of them are participants at DP, lol.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Great analogy. Polling data shows most Americans now acknowledge that. Even the GOP congress now accepts that reality. Ha, Rand Paul told Morning Joe yesterday that the rise of the Islamic State is largely the fault of hawks in his party! Thankfully those that are unwilling to accept the US's responsibility for creating the conditions for the rise of the Islamic State are a small minority. I think half of them are participants at DP, lol.
    When Bush went before Congress to ask for the authorization to use military force in Iraq, Roughly a third (82 of 297) of House Representatives votes cast in favor were from Democrats.

    More than a third (29 of 77) of the Senate Votes cast in favor of the Authorization were from Democrats.

    Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    H.J.Res._114_Iraq_Resolution_Votes_October_2002.jpg

    The decision to go into Iraq was very bi-Partisan.

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    Re: Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    When Bush went before Congress to ask for the authorization to use military force in Iraq, Roughly a third (82 of 297) of House Representatives votes cast in favor were from Democrats.

    More than a third (29 of 77) of the Senate Votes cast in favor of the Authorization were from Democrats.

    Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    H.J.Res._114_Iraq_Resolution_Votes_October_2002.jpg

    The decision to go into Iraq was very bi-Partisan.

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    You won't get any disagreement from me on that. Then, Obama made matters worse by supporting the MB, to the ruin of Mubarak, al Qaeda, to the ruin of Gaddafi, and the rebels in Syria, which were infested with al Nusra, MB, AQ and the Islamic State in Iraq, which became the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, to the ruin of Assad, and just look about at the colossal mess we have!!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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