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Cleveland officer found not guilty in killings that followed car chase

While I may like their enforcement of laws, I have little agreement with what is law there. However, compare their theft and murder rate to ours. Seems they have a better system for dealing with such crimes.

Perhaps they have less guns?
 
While I may like their enforcement of laws, I have little agreement with what is law there. However, compare their theft and murder rate to ours. Seems they have a better system for dealing with such crimes.

Why do you hate America? You certainly hate the constitution being that its a massive obstacle to your torturous utopia.
 
Why do you hate America? You certainly hate the constitution being that its a massive obstacle to your torturous utopia.

I don't hate America, I hate an America that has moved to far left from it's origins. An America without Liberals, progressives, socialist, communist/Libertarian leftist would be a great place. Rural America is the best I've ever lived in, Inner-city Urban is nothing but an intolerable hell hole.

Also, the prohibition in the Constitution is against Cruel and Unusual punishments. What that means depends on what one's views may be. The founding fathers did a lot of things modern, especially leftist, would be considered cruel. I consider an ineffective prison/punishment system to be cruel to the greatest number of people and thus any effective system, no matter how cruel to the individual criminal, would be less cruel over all.
 
I don't hate America, I hate an America that has moved to far left from it's origins. An America without Liberals, progressives, socialist, communist/Libertarian leftist would be a great place. Rural America is the best I've ever lived in, Inner-city Urban is nothing but an intolerable hell hole.

Also, the prohibition in the Constitution is against Cruel and Unusual punishments. What that means depends on what one's views may be. The founding fathers did a lot of things modern, especially leftist, would be considered cruel. I consider an ineffective prison/punishment system to be cruel to the greatest number of people and thus any effective system, no matter how cruel to the individual criminal, would be less cruel over all.
It seems to me you love an America that doesn't exist and never has.
 
I don't hate America, I hate an America that has moved to far left from it's origins. An America without Liberals, progressives, socialist, communist/Libertarian leftist would be a great place. Rural America is the best I've ever lived in, Inner-city Urban is nothing but an intolerable hell hole.
All from your POV, of course.

But with all respect, it would seem around a little over one half of your fellow Americans disagree, at least in terms of national election of the United States President.

I do wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of inner-city slums, though.
 
That's something extremely wrong with the society in which the penalty for reckless driving is death. That's so ridiculous and so weird that I can't believe it. People have every reason to fear police.
 
All from your POV, of course.

But with all respect, it would seem around a little over one half of your fellow Americans disagree, at least in terms of national election of the United States President.

I do wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of inner-city slums, though.

Probably a lot more than half.
 
That's something extremely wrong with the society in which the penalty for reckless driving is death. That's so ridiculous and so weird that I can't believe it. People have every reason to fear police.

Where did "reckless driving" come in? They were being chased because the refused to pull over and let the cops arrest them. The cops were chasing them, and shooting at them, because they thought the people fleeing in the car had fired a gun.
 
That's something extremely wrong with the society in which the penalty for reckless driving is death. That's so ridiculous and so weird that I can't believe it. People have every reason to fear police.

The penalty for reckless driving is quite often death, but not necessarily the death of the driver.

As for cops chasing anyone and firing 137 bullets, that sort of thing should only happen in the Dirty Harry movies. The penalty for shooting willy nilly that many rounds (or any rounds) in a populated place is quite often death as well, but not the death of the person doing the shooting.
 
The penalty for reckless driving is quite often death, but not necessarily the death of the driver.

As for cops chasing anyone and firing 137 bullets, that sort of thing should only happen in the Dirty Harry movies. The penalty for shooting willy nilly that many rounds (or any rounds) in a populated place is quite often death as well, but not the death of the person doing the shooting.
137 rounds @ 13 officers, account for roughly less than 11 rounds apiece.
 
Summon the animal rioters again!

Time to burn a city down!

000.001% of protesters turn into rioters and yet you call the "Humanitization of the Ghetto" movement "animals". Sure you arent racist or something?
 
There were a total of 136 shots fired into the car and the judge aquitted the officer because he could not determine if said officer fired the fatal rounds.

I'm glad the cop's okay. Those two in the car are dead because they ran from the cops.

Running from a cop is not an offence worthy of execution. Cops are not Judge Dredd. The cop stated he feared for his life. Well.. If he was so damn scared why did you jump on the hood like a cowboy and execute them? He obviously was not scared. He was playing cowboys and indians with his badge and a real gun.
 
What? Is just driving a car now a threat to police? It seems no matter how small the provocation, some believe the police should be allowed to escalate without accountability.

Some people need to look past police accountability. The realization that some cops are evil and snuffing average joe's would shatter their paradigm and force them to rethink life and where they really stand in society. For them cops are knights in shining armor and everyone the cop targets is bad, except accidents... and accidents are ok.
 
I don't hate America, I hate an America that has moved to far left from it's origins. An America without Liberals, progressives, socialist, communist/Libertarian leftist would be a great place. Rural America is the best I've ever lived in, Inner-city Urban is nothing but an intolerable hell hole.

Also, the prohibition in the Constitution is against Cruel and Unusual punishments. What that means depends on what one's views may be. The founding fathers did a lot of things modern, especially leftist, would be considered cruel. I consider an ineffective prison/punishment system to be cruel to the greatest number of people and thus any effective system, no matter how cruel to the individual criminal, would be less cruel over all.

I see. You love America, its just all those Americans you hate. :lamo
 
000.001% of protesters turn into rioters and yet you call the "Humanitization of the Ghetto" movement "animals". Sure you arent racist or something?

Your numbers are WAY off. Open your eyes. You're still seeing "hands up" all over the place, even though Michael Brown's hands were proven clearly to not be up.

Look at Baltimore. A rash of homicides is hitting the city. Cops are being surrounded by mobs when they respond to a call. It's chaos. All because of a guy who had a mile-long arrest record that went crazy in a police van and accidentally killed himself.

Again, open your eyes.
 
Your numbers are WAY off. Open your eyes. You're still seeing "hands up" all over the place, even though Michael Brown's hands were proven clearly to not be up.

Look at Baltimore. A rash of homicides is hitting the city. Cops are being surrounded by mobs when they respond to a call. It's chaos. All because of a guy who had a mile-long arrest record that went crazy in a police van and accidentally killed himself.

Again, open your eyes.

You are an idiot for attributing years and years of systemic behavoir to 1 single incedent. FACT: Blacks are more likely to receive punishment for the same crime as a white while the white is more likely to be let off with a warning. FACT: When the victim is black it is more likely that the prosecution lands a milder sentence for the white criminal. FACT: Cops target black people more because statistics show black people are more likely to commit a crime, causing a compounded effect of cops super scutinizing black people more than white people, further bolstering the statistics.

The people there see it as "This crap has been going on too long, Now we are fed up" and you see it as "Stupid people defending a criminal"

And actually the proof in the Brown case is more indicative that he had his hands up in a surrendering position, but the news told you the proof says his hands were up and you believe it. Go and look at the autopsy report. The bullets only could have been caused if his hands where in front of him and raised a good bit. But this isnt about brown at all. It is about police systemically targeting "the ghetto" and treating them like sub-humans.
 
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