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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    This thread is about gay marriage, and you won't find one of those in the Bible. Nor will you find even one God-approved gay sexual relationship in it.

    As for slavery, what is it about Jesus' "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" that you think even remotely approves of enslaving someone?

    So get a new dog, that one has fleas.
    Yep, cherry picking. You pick one quote from Jesus and yet ignore everything else the Bible says about slavery. I could also point to this Jesus quote and say you should let other people marry and live as they will as you would want to be allowed the same. But I'm sure you will trot out something from Leviticus to defend your distaste for homosexuals regardless of what Jesus said.

    What Does the Bible Say About Slavery?

    Leviticus 25:44-46 ESV / 377 helpful votes

    As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

    Galatians 5:1 ESV / 282 helpful votes

    For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

    Ephesians 6:5 ESV / 256 helpful votes

    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,

    Exodus 21:20-21 ESV / 247 helpful votes

    “When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Have you never read the Bible?

    "Love does not rejoice in iniquity" - 1 Corinthians 13

    And, from Romans 13 -

    "Love does no harm to a neighbor" (like enticing one's neighbor into a sinful sexual relationship for which there are negative temporal and eternal consequences).
    This dude just used "love does no harm to a neighbor" as an argument against same-sex marriage

    Can't make this stuff up.
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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Gay marriage approved in Ireland.

    Just shows they're Biblically and spiritually challenged also.
    Those are not negatives.

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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother AJ View Post
    Yep, cherry picking. You pick one quote from Jesus and yet ignore everything else the Bible says about slavery.
    You still can't answer the question, can you? So try again.

    What is it about Jesus' "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" that you think even remotely approves of enslaving someone?
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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    This dude just used "love does no harm to a neighbor" as an argument against same-sex marriage

    Can't make this stuff up.
    Apparently you can't defeat that argument either.
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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    You still can't answer the question, can you? So try again.

    What is it about Jesus' "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" that you think even remotely approves of enslaving someone?
    Nothing. Are you saying that your morality is only based upon what was said by Jesus? Did he ever say anything about not letting homosexuals marry?

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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother AJ View Post
    Nothing. Are you saying that your morality is only based upon what was said by Jesus? Did he ever say anything about not letting homosexuals marry?
    Jesus is God. As God, Jesus is the one who gave Moses the Levitical law against gay sexual relations to begin with; and he’s the one who inspires all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16), including prohibitions against gay sexual relations in Romans 1:26-27 and I Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.

    It’s also worth noting that Jesus didn’t mention wife beating or other sins such as pedophilia either, and there are not many folks who would argue he approved of those behaviors. So Jesus was under no obligation to reiterate the moral laws against homosexual sin that already existed, unless there were clarifications to be made.
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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Apparently you can't defeat that argument either.
    You're absolutely right that this one sentence from the bible doesn't support slavery.

    Similarly, that one sentence doesn't say anything bad about homosexuality either. So you can't defeat this argument.
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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Jesus is God. As God, Jesus is the one who gave Moses the Levitical law against gay sexual relations to begin with; and he’s the one who inspires all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16), including prohibitions against gay sexual relations in Romans 1:26-27 and I Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.

    It’s also worth noting that Jesus didn’t mention wife beating or other sins such as pedophilia either, and there are not many folks who would argue he approved of those behaviors. So Jesus was under no obligation to reiterate the moral laws against homosexual sin that already existed, unless there were clarifications to be made.
    Please. Don't pretend you actually support Leviticus. It says something that fits your ideas about homosexuals, and you'll happily ignore everything else it says.
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    re: Same-sex marriage on course to be approved by Ireland [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You're absolutely right that this one sentence from the bible doesn't support slavery.

    Similarly, that one sentence doesn't say anything bad about homosexuality either. So you can't defeat this argument.
    You've never read the Bible, have you?

    Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

    Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

    Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

    1 Timothy 1:8-10 - “But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine…”

    Jude 7 – “In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.”

    There's no gay marriages in the Old Testament; No gay marriages in the New Testament; no gay sex approved anywhere in the Bible. Just the opposite - gay sex is condemned in both testaments. God is consistent on that.

    And to close:

    “Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro' the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch diameter at the least.” - Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for Proportioning Crimes and Punishments

    Dr. Bruce Metzger of Princeton Theological Seminary mentions other references to Sodom's sexual immorality in 3 Maccabees 2:5: "the people of Sodom who acted arrogantly, who were notorious for their vices." And again in Jubilees 16:6: "the uncleanness of the Sodomites."
    "Progressives aren't really progressive. They're regressive, all the way back to Sodom and Gomorrah." - author unknown

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