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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Cutting all welfare, problem is there are specific people that welfare is the only road they have, illness, disability and so on.
    As to wage increases, used to be as productivity increased so did wages & that is no longer the situation. Has not been for decades.
    Higher paying jobs, one issue are many are without skills or have very basic skill sets. Then training/education is needed.
    I have no issue with providing for the exceptionally handicapped. No one is opposing that.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Studies of the 70s welfare impacts, showed an increase of part time work related to the amount of benefits being offered. people wanted less full time work, as they would then be eating into the free money from the govt.
    Exactly. Welfare incentivizes people to accept jobs with lower incomes.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I have no issue with providing for the exceptionally handicapped. No one is opposing that.
    One on here would remove children and place them in orphanages.
    One issue we have up here is losing certain welfare benefits as wages increase, dental and day care as an example.
    It makes for an economic trap.
    Each Province differs, same as each State does.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    This thread is proof that Limbaugh, who I have never listened to because his show is not available in my area unfortunately, is right on target with that belief.
    Absurd. Just because someone supports the existence of a minimum wage doesn't mean they are a communist.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    One on here would remove children and place them in orphanages.
    One issue we have up here is losing certain welfare benefits as wages increase, dental and day care as an example.
    It makes for an economic trap.
    Each Province differs, same as each State does.
    Those children may be better off under state care, than living in the house of a single mother on welfare.

    The existence of welfare itself contributes to people having more kids than they could otherwise afford.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    The existence of welfare itself contributes to people having more kids than they could otherwise afford.
    I think that is a common fallacy many have.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Welfare, like anything in life, can be abused. Currently, it is being abused by corporate America to allow tax payers to support people rather than business. It needs to be addressed.

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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    It's amazing that libertarians and conservatives will lecture me that I shouldn't care how much money the rich make because it's none of my business, yet libertarians and conservatives are arguing that increasing the pay of low wage workers concerns them.
    What it you aren't getting about this conversation? Seriously. State mandated, arbitrary increases in pay for anyone concerns me as it should concern you. Plus, as I pointed out to you earlier, a virtual doubling of the minimum will impact the entire employee payment structure. You agreed with this and are now complaining. Make up your mind.

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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's literally what you said. The graphics designer "wont be happy" about making the same amount as a burger flipper.

    I make what I make. Why do you think I'll be upset if fast food workers make more money than they do now? Does that make me poorer?

    Other than some need to feel superior, why would I be unhappy?

    McDonald's is a ****ty job. I wouldn't work there for the same money I make flying planes.
    Pay attention. The skilled graphics designer whose $15 an hour job was the result of education, hard work and experience is now about to have all that washed away by an arbitrary, state mandated increase in pay for the uneducated, unskilled, and untrained. He now will be making the same. Clearly, your lack of understanding comes from your pay scale being at the minimum wage level, but, just for a moment, pretend you actually had a skill, cultivated it, and were rewarded by your employer for that effort in the form of a wage nearly double what the average unskilled imbecile would make. Would you be happy with that? Or expect your employer to have your wages keep pace with the arbitrary?

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