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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    I've worked a lot of different jobs in a lot of different industries. Honestly, I haven't found any of them particularly easy or difficult. Having to deal with the public as a cashier at McDonalds has a different type of "difficulty" than flipping burgers, which has a different type of difficulty than working in a manufacturing plant, which has a different type of difficulty than being a manager or a pencil pusher.

    Just this week I was talking to a young attorney who was telling me how easy his job is, he does initial consultations for a large law firm, gets paid nearly $100k just to talk to people - and he admitted that most of the time they could get the same advice for free just by using google.

    I'd imagine that being a brain surgeon is pretty easy, for trained brain surgeons. Just the same way that being a rock start is easy for rock stars, and being a professional golfer is easy for professional golfers. Once you know how to do something and are skilled in it, then everything is easy.

    Someone who had only been in my industry a few months asked me if it ever got easier. I told them no, it never get's easier, you just get better at it.

    I'm really not sure that any particular job is more productive than another - they are all needed, and all are easy once you become skilled at that particular profession.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    I had no benefits when I making $15 an hour...that came when I became full time and my salary doubled along with those sweet benefits (keep paying your taxes, home slice).
    I'm sorry, I did not quite see when that was, exactly. You see, if you want to compare what you earned then with a $15 per sometime in the future (since the increase is for some cities, some employees, years into the future) we would need to know the date of when/then.
    Inflation is a good thing for socialists such as yourself....if you are $18 Trillion in Obama-debt, why wouldnt you want the dollar worth less? I wonder how much $18 Trillion would be worth back when we were still on the gold standard that socialists took us off of?
    Aside from not understanding inflation, or gold, I'm just amazed that a former city employee is whining about socialism....when for years (apparently) he was paid by one of the oldest forms of socialized employment.

    Is that a memorization issue, or a thinking one?
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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That's perfect. Turn out graduates who can't get a job because employment is too expensive. But at least the edu-crats have a job.
    That's better than not having ample edu-crat jobs!!! Look at what the alternative would be - no jobs because employment is too expensive plus no edu-crat jobs.
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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    No, because like I said, I make double that wage plus benefits.
    Great. So quit demanding other people live in poverty just so you can feel better about yourself.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Well, are you in favor of expanding the Earned Income Credit? In past posts, people such as Fenton, who 'liked' your post, called people who don't pay income taxes moochers. Now, are you'all in favor of giving more to the 'moochers?'

    I'd rather raise the minimum wage, and have employers foot the bill for higher wages, instead of laying at the feet of taxpayers and subsidize employer low-pay.

    Employers wont food the bill for anything....YOU will pay their higher wages, just like YOU will pay their taxes for them.

    Want higher wages...eliminate the corporate tax. Stop take, take, taking from businesses all the time and PRETENDING that is good for anything.

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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Wages should be low for certain jobs and full grown adults should not be working those jobs. Eliminating welfare would be good motivation for them.

    Name ONE conservative who said we should have "lots a welfare"?? Im certainly not saying that. What ****ing RIDICULOUS assertion by you.
    Well, the EITC is is pretty big, and we have a number of cons approving and wanting it expanded, Cpwill for example.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    So increase it for the people actually being productive...not min wage burger flippers....
    Burger flippers aren't productive? What about that cashier?

    You don't eat prepared foods?

    What about grass cutters, and hair cutters? Are those jobs not productive either? What about shelf stockers or buggy boys? Truck drivers? Front line managers?

    At what point do we draw the line and say that someones work isn't productive?

    I would think that it is any work that we aren't willing to pay for. We are willing to pay for burger flippers, cahsiers, grass cutters, hair cutters, shelf stockers, truck drivers, etc, thus all those jobs are productive and have value.

    Are you so self centered that you believe only your particular job has any value?
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Employers wont food the bill for anything....YOU will pay their higher wages, just like YOU will pay their taxes for them.

    Want higher wages...eliminate the corporate tax. Stop take, take, taking from businesses all the time and PRETENDING that is good for anything.
    The idea that lower corporate taxes would increase wages is absolutely comical.
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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Great. So quit demanding other people live in poverty just so you can feel better about yourself.
    I dont DEMAND anyone does anything. That is what YOU are doing. YOU are DEMANDING that employers MUST pay more money out.

    Its always funny when PROGS start up the hypocrisy train. CHOO CHOO

    The only thing I believe in is that the people who put in the most effort and do the best job get rewarded by getting paid the most. PROGS dont believe in that because they pretend the world is fair. They think burger flippers should have a 2 story house with a picket fence, and the CEO should have the same....even though one has a GED and one has an MBA.

    More effort = more results
    Less effort = less results

    Its not that hard to understand. I worked harder at improving my life than people who think McDonalds line cooking is a career. Salting fries is equal to running an international company in the mind of the socialist progressive.

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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
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    Want higher wages...eliminate the corporate tax. Stop take, take, taking from businesses all the time and PRETENDING that is good for anything.
    I'm all for that, except that I don't think there is really a connection between wages and corporate taxation.
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