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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    That isnt his problem, that IS a problem. When I started out in law enforcement I made $15 an hour as a part time officer. That is with a bachelor's degree and paying my own way through LE academy.


    Now Im supposed to believe that someone flipping burgers making that same wage is A-OK? I was making felony arrests making that money...but thats called paying your damn dues. All those people working warehouse jobs that paid their dues to make $15+ as supervisors paid their dues. Come on bro....cant you admit that labor has a value? If you are working a job that requires no skill then you shouldnt be rewarded for breezing through life. That type of loser mindset makes my blood boil.
    Of course labor has value. But why does someone else getting a raise insult you?

    Surely, if your labor really is so much more valuable, your pay will also increase because your employer will have to out-compete fast food restaurants.
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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Yea but your personal income tax would go through the roof then you would be at square one. Progs like yourself like shoveling money back and forth to pretend like they are doing something useful, when in reality they are just creating parasitic loss. Same thing goes with the car engine....the engine makes X horsepower...then when you introduce the transmission, drive shaft, axle, gears, tires, friction, etc you make a lot less horsepower. Parasitic loss....that is what happens when the government gets involved in ANYTHING. You are paying people to manage your money, so they are going to take some of that money to do the managing, turning your dollar into cents.

    But you would probably like that because, as a socialist, and as Ive already said, you believe that all money is the governments money.
    You do realize that I was being sarcastic don't you?

    But I am glad that you just made my point. It's rediculous to increase welfare.

    And you are accusing me of being a progressive/socialist, yet it's mostly conservatives and libertarians who are arguing that wages should be low and that we should have lots of welfare to make low wage workers comfortable in their poverty, at the expense of those of us who make decent wages.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Aside from the benefits not calculated in to your "LE" enforcement employment (private school really paid off!), you are ignoring a basic, fundamental concept called....inflation (again with the thinking thingy!).
    I had no benefits when I making $15 an hour...that came when I became full time and my salary doubled along with those sweet benefits (keep paying your taxes, home slice). Inflation is a good thing for socialists such as yourself....if you are $18 Trillion in Obama-debt, why wouldnt you want the dollar worth less? I wonder how much $18 Trillion would be worth back when we were still on the gold standard that socialists took us off of?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Am I the only person who sees the irony in conservatives arguing that we should increase welfare rather than to increase income from actually being productive?

    Are conservatives the new progressive-liberals?
    So increase it for the people actually being productive...not min wage burger flippers. Give the management a pay raise, keep the zit poppers at the bottom.

    Id like to see us eliminate welfare AND the minimum wage. That would actually kick start the economy about as much as eliminating the corporate tax. Then people would actually have to try instead of breezing through life.

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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    I had no benefits when I making $15 an hour...that came when I became full time and my salary doubled along with those sweet benefits (keep paying your taxes, home slice). Inflation is a good thing for socialists such as yourself....if you are $18 Trillion in Obama-debt, why wouldnt you want the dollar worth less? I wonder how much $18 Trillion would be worth back when we were still on the gold standard that socialists took us off of?



    So increase it for the people actually being productive...not min wage burger flippers. Give the management a pay raise, keep the zit poppers at the bottom.

    Id like to see us eliminate welfare AND the minimum wage. That would actually kick start the economy about as much as eliminating the corporate tax. Then people would actually have to try instead of breezing through life.
    So, if McDonald's paid $15/hour, would you go work there? Breezing through life, right? Why wouldn't you?
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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    That isnt his problem, that IS a problem. When I started out in law enforcement I made $15 an hour as a part time officer. That is with a bachelor's degree and paying my own way through LE academy.


    Now Im supposed to believe that someone flipping burgers making that same wage is A-OK? I was making felony arrests making that money...but thats called paying your damn dues. All those people working warehouse jobs that paid their dues to make $15+ as supervisors paid their dues. Come on bro....cant you admit that labor has a value? If you are working a job that requires no skill then you shouldnt be rewarded for breezing through life. That type of loser mindset makes my blood boil.
    It seems to me that you have a jealousy issue.
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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    And you are accusing me of being a progressive/socialist, yet it's mostly conservatives and libertarians who are arguing that wages should be low and that we should have lots of welfare to make low wage workers comfortable in their poverty, at the expense of those of us who make decent wages.
    Wages should be low for certain jobs and full grown adults should not be working those jobs. Eliminating welfare would be good motivation for them.

    Name ONE conservative who said we should have "lots a welfare"?? Im certainly not saying that. What ****ing RIDICULOUS assertion by you.

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    Re: Warren Buffett: $15 minimum wage will hurt the working class

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    The left loves to post Warren Buffett and parrot what he says as the way things should be done.
    https://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warre...-minimum-wage/

    well he just came out and made the same statement that other people have already acknowledged.
    a $15 minimum wage will hurt middle income families.

    His idea is to expand the EIC.
    Well, are you in favor of expanding the Earned Income Credit? In past posts, people such as Fenton, who 'liked' your post, called people who don't pay income taxes moochers. Now, are you'all in favor of giving more to the 'moochers?'

    I'd rather raise the minimum wage, and have employers foot the bill for higher wages, instead of laying at the feet of taxpayers and subsidize employer low-pay.
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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Wages should be low for certain jobs and full grown adults should not be working those jobs. Eliminating welfare would be good motivation for them.

    Name ONE conservative who said we should have "lots a welfare"?? Im certainly not saying that. What ****ing RIDICULOUS assertion by you.
    So what you're saying is that McDonald's should only be open after 5pm? Yeah that seems like a good business model.

    Expanding the EITC is "lots of welfare."
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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, if McDonald's paid $15/hour, would you go work there? Breezing through life, right? Why wouldn't you?
    No, because like I said, I make double that wage plus benefits.

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    It seems to me that you have a jealousy issue.
    Oh right...Im jealous...but the people who want to make my salary with zero skills, zero education, and zero effort arent...ohhhhhhhh ok That makes sense. And Mitt Romney is greedy as well because he doesnt pay his fair share of taxes (he actually was paying $2 million a year when Harry Scumbag Reid was accusing him of paying nothing...something that he not only didnt apologize for but is proud of saying to this very day) but the people who pay ZERO income taxes and want Romney to pay MORE arent greedy?

    Bizarro world.

    I was HAPPY AS **** to get that part time job paying $15 an hour....because I know if I worked my ass off I would benefit from it, and I have....its too bad these liberal sycophants cant take that same mindset and take their min. wage job and through hard work and effort turn it into a $15 an hour supervisor/management job...the people who actually DESERVE a raise.

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    Re: Warren Buffett Don't raise the minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How about raising the minimum wage and also investing in education?
    That's perfect. Turn out graduates who can't get a job because employment is too expensive. But at least the edu-crats have a job.

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