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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    OK so now there doesn't need to be any more protests. The perpetrators have been caught and charged.
    Not quite. Remember: This is only a grand jury indictment, not a civil or criminal adjudication. All this Grand Jury decision does is make the case that there is enough evidence of wrong-doing to support an actual criminal trial. The protesters in Baltimore may be happy to hear this news, but I seriously doubt they'll leave before a verdict is read from a criminal trial.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    This is a clear witch hunt.
    I know this won't matter to some people, but I've spoken to a dozen or so local cops in my area about this case and only one who claimed to have kept abreast of this case have sided with their fellow Baltimore boys in blue. The majority believe that the Baltimore PD involved could and should have done more to help Gray despite his criminal background or alleged criminal activity at the time of his arrest. Each agreed they had at least two opportunities to see to his medical needs. All held their opinion on police brutality or purposeful physical harm (i.e., rough ride), but 11 out of 12 agreed there was clear negligence.

    Again, these are cops I'm talking about, not ordinary citizens. Seems to me the grand jury verdict was the right call.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I know this won't matter to some people, but I've spoken to a dozen or so local cops in my area about this case and only one who claimed to have kept abreast of this case have sided with their fellow Baltimore boys in blue. The majority believe that the Baltimore PD involved could and should have done more to help Gray despite his criminal background or alleged criminal activity at the time of his arrest. Each agreed they had at least two opportunities to see to his medical needs. All held their opinion on police brutality or purposeful physical harm (i.e., rough ride), but 11 out of 12 agreed there was clear negligence.

    Again, these are cops I'm talking about, not ordinary citizens. Seems to me the grand jury verdict was the right call.

    An appeal to authority?
    iLOL
    And only one has kept abreast? That is even more funny.
    There is no evidence available to even suggest any negligence at all.
    In regards to two opportunities to see to his medical needs. Bs.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Not quite. Remember: This is only a grand jury indictment, not a civil or criminal adjudication. All this Grand Jury decision does is make the case that there is enough evidence of wrong-doing to support an actual criminal trial. The protesters in Baltimore may be happy to hear this news, but I seriously doubt they'll leave before a verdict is read from a criminal trial.
    I know, the protests had nothing to do with this case inthe first place, so it doesn't matter what happens with the defendants.

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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    GJ indictments are almost 100 % certainty.
    One side (the DA) presents their case.
    Getting an indictment is like robbing candy from a baby.
    Not necessarily when it regards cops. Because cops and prosecutors generally work hand in hand. Prosecutors run a risk of burning serious bridges per their work in prosecuting cops.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Not necessarily when it regards cops. Because cops and prosecutors generally work hand in hand. Prosecutors run a risk of burning serious bridges per their work in prosecuting cops.
    I have another point. Juries are loath to convict Officers. They (Officers) are given more leeway than others on testiony.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    An appeal to authority?
    iLOL
    And only one has kept abreast? That is even more funny.
    There is no evidence available to even suggest any negligence at all.
    In regards to two opportunities to see to his medical needs. Bs.
    Like I said, to some people what I posted above won't matter.

    This may come as a surprise to you, Excon, but some Black people DO have great respect for authority where local law enforcement is concerned. I happen to work very closely with members of my local law enforcement and speak with them on a regular basis. And of the dozen or so local police I spoke with about this case, only 1 sided fully with the Baltimore PD. (Reading comprehension...) As for the rest of your reply, none of it matters as the Grand Jury obviously believes there was enough wrong-doing to indict the police officers involved. So, you can scream "no evidence, no clear opportunities to provide Gray with medical attention" all you want. Clearly, the presiding officials in this Grand Jury thought differently than you.

    We'll see how this comes out after the trial.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Like I said, to some people what I posted above won't matter.
    What you said objectively doesn't matter.
    That you think it does is quite telling.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    This may come as a surprise to you, Excon, but some Black people DO have great respect for authority where local law enforcement is concerned.
    1. No one said otherwise.
    2. Irrelevant.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I happen to work very closely with members of my local law enforcement and speak with them on a regular basis.
    1. Irrelevant.
    2. Don't care.
    3. You know how many Officers I work with on a daily basis? And do you know what their opinions are in regards to this case?
    It doesn't matter is the only relevant answer. Duh!


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And of the dozen or so local police I spoke with about this case, only 1 sided fully with the Baltimore PD. (Reading comprehension...)
    1. It is the way you wrote it.
    2. Irrelevant.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    As for the rest of your reply, none of it matters as the Grand Jury obviously believes there was enough wrong-doing to indict the police officers involved. So, you can scream "no evidence, no clear opportunities to provide Gray with medical attention" all you want. Clearly, the presiding officials in this Grand Jury thought differently than you.

    1. If you think the GJ was given all the relevant info, you are fooling yourself.
    2. iLOL A prosecutor can get a GJ to indict a ham sandwich. It means nothing in regards to what is being debated.
    But of course you do not understand any of the above which is why you again attempt to use an appeal to authority. Funny.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    We'll see how this comes out after the trial.
    Duh!
    You thinking you need to state the obvious is comical.
    This is a debate site. We debate the info we have. There is no evidence that the Officers did anything wrong. Only the allegation of a prosecutor.
    If you want to wait until after the final outcome to debate, do so, but don't pretend that has any significance, especially as you have been engaged in prior debate of the information.
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